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Old 11-09-2002, 01:03 PM   #301
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You see, that's exactly where the difference between the Mugen and the AE lies.

I bought more parts for my NTC3 in 3 month than I bought for my Mugen in 2 years.

I still have most of my spare parts that I bought when I got the kit.
Even if the Mugen parts were ten times more expensive, you'd still save money over the NTC3.

And don't even think about telling me not to hit stuff so it won't break.

The NTC3 has proven nothing in my book. A few highly paid factory drivers that win a few races with anything but stock cars do not reflect the broad racing community.

Open your eyes and look around. Why are so many GOOD nitro shops blowing the car out and won't reorder?

There is not one freaking NTC3 left at any track I race.

It seems that once you choose a product, it's automatically the best available.
Same with those crappy Crazy cooling heads that break off on most cars. Maybe you don't race hard enough
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Old 11-09-2002, 05:38 PM   #302
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dont bash crazy nut racing heads,those things are amazing, definently the best machined and performing head on the market!!
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Old 11-09-2002, 05:53 PM   #303
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stefan if you compare what the team drivers from AE drove
compared to other team drivers from different companies
you'll see that the associated cars looked closer to stock than
the other cars. besides most of the modification to the car can
be done for less than $50 compare that to the other cars with
parts you won't even see in production. as for the car doing
good with just the factory drivers that isn't true either here
in socal wich i think is one of the most competative areas
you will always find a ntc3 in the top 3. anyway this mugen
is nice and i will get probably also get one.
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Old 11-09-2002, 06:36 PM   #304
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The MTX-3 looks like its gonna be an awesome car. Intial reactions have all been really good. I think the NTC3 is a nice car too, so is the V1RR, so is the GT4 pro (especially with the new 2 speed shoe clutch and the centax), so is the Impulse, and I'm sure the 705 is gonna be nice too. So in closing, there all friggin good cars. So Whateva!!!! Peace!
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Old 11-09-2002, 09:09 PM   #305
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I hered front pully is 36 does anybody know what rear pully is tring to find out if MTX2 dif are diffrent from MTX3 front dif is soposed to be same part number. love my KAW neg diff
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Old 11-09-2002, 09:26 PM   #306
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As i said before, along with my new car, im "reguired" to get a new body....
what do you guys thik of this? by the way, the chinese characters are Pinyin luan, and mean disorder, or "chaos"
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Old 11-09-2002, 10:19 PM   #307
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I like it, one thing though, the teal kind of clashes... unless that's the effect your looking for.
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Old 11-09-2002, 11:19 PM   #308
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what oil do you run in your neg diff i am running 5000wt and am having trouble with push out of corners compared with the standard diff?
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Old 11-09-2002, 11:52 PM   #309
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The oil in a negative diff only afffects the cars handling at the entrance of a corner, b/c once it leaves, you should be on power and the diff locks itself when on power.
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Quote:
Originally posted by jwf_frani
stefan if you compare what the team drivers from AE drove
compared to other team drivers from different companies
you'll see that the associated cars looked closer to stock than
the other cars. besides most of the modification to the car can
be done for less than $50 compare that to the other cars with
parts you won't even see in production. as for the car doing
good with just the factory drivers that isn't true either here
in socal wich i think is one of the most competative areas
you will always find a ntc3 in the top 3. anyway this mugen
is nice and i will get probably also get one.
Frani I'm not an ntc3 basher because I think it's a good car with it's own strengths, and I don't agree with what 90% of what stefan posts but your post is not accurate. Associated drivers used many parts at the worlds to make their car durable that are no where close to stock. Go ask around on the ntc3 thread they've got pictures up of most of them. The most stock looking car from what I saw was the reflex, it appeared the only non-stock,non-available part was a 23 tooth pinion gear that Cyrul ran. NTC3 is a great car that before long will get the quality issues sorted, but I am firmly under the belief that the reason you see ntc3's finishing well is the sheer # of entries. Often a field will be flooded with them, so you're not saying to much when one gets a podium. I also believe if you have a driver who is dominating with the ntc3 said driver will likely dominate with any other pro car as well. Let's just hope the mtx-3 is innovative and a noticeable improvement over it's predecessor.
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Old 11-10-2002, 02:55 AM   #311
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ntc3nut sorry mate but i agree with stefan, and after all this is the mugen mtx3 thread
as for your spares comment you cant beat mugen for the cost of spares.
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are you telling me there is no diff action before the shoes throw out and lock the drive?,my problem is when the shoes lock to drive it provides too much drive and causes the car not to be able to keep a tight exit out of a corner
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No, the way that the negative differential works is that there is a clutch inside of the diff. When a certain rpm is reached, the differential is locked, thereby becoming a solid differential. However, when the clutch inside the neg. diff is not engaged, then you have regular differential action.
I believe that your lack of exit steering is to be found elsewhere in your setup. What are you running at the front end of the drivetrain? One way, differential? if your running a diff uup front, i might suggest a one way.
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are you telling me there is no diff action before the shoes throw out and lock the drive?,my problem is when the shoes lock to drive it provides too much drive and causes the car not to be able to keep a tight exit out of a corner
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the Negative diff is not going to fit the mtx3 is it?
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