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Old 05-27-2006, 09:38 PM   #7006
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Nope, no $$$.

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That's a shame, because the Kyosho works really good at the track.

Also, are there a lot of RC tracks and rc action in Oregon? I would of been dying to race there I knew when I visited a few years ago.
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Old 05-27-2006, 09:39 PM   #7007
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I can tell you right now, the servo position will make no difference to the performance. We already tried it on my friends car. The reason to get the EVO or convert to it is the transmission durability of the new 2-speed shaft. What will affect the performace is the new rear diff covers and the new shocks which allow the use of a lot more different springs.

To be honest, I don't know why they called it an EVO. It should've just been a rolling change with maybe a price adjustment but nothing more. AE did that with their NTC3, why can't Kyosho?
Based on info and photos here (hobby show photos) and here (Kyosho) and here (FEMCA) looks like:

- Upper deck
- Servo orientation
* Shocks
* Brakes
* 2nd gear shaft
* Spur gear
- Rear diff covers

Based on servo position testing, the only parts really worth changing out are the ones with the asterisk. For the rear diff covers, this may be the part of choice or the VZW207-02. The brakes are only if you decide not to get the K Factory Racing ones.

Your thoughts?
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Old 05-27-2006, 09:48 PM   #7008
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Based on info and photos here (hobby show photos) and here (Kyosho) and here (FEMCA) looks like:

- Upper deck
- Servo orientation
* Shocks
* Brakes
* 2nd gear shaft
* Spur gear
- Rear diff covers

Based on servo position testing, the only parts really worth changing out are the ones with the asterisk. For the rear diff covers, this may be the part of choice or the VZW207-02. The brakes are only if you decide not to get the K Factory Racing ones.

Your thoughts?
Right, everything on the 2-speed shaft is an improvement from the old shaft. The brake disk should last longer because of the pin desing and you can use a lot of aftermarket disks now, even the Mugen disk will fit. I don't know about the brake pads, but I am sure they are a big improvement over the "sucky" stock pads. If you want better braking but don't want to pay for the APP pads, the MTX-4 pads( stock or teflon are dramatically better than the stock RRR pads) are almost a direct fit replacement. The most you would have to do to make it fit is ream out the bottom holes a little bit on the pads.
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Old 05-27-2006, 09:54 PM   #7009
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The German Kyosho website had great hi-res pics of the EVO.

ENJOY!!!!!!
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What I'm doing wrong..My rear Diff felt too tight and it isn't smooth feeling when you turn the out drive... I did take out the all the shims behind the bevel gears.....still too tight
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What I'm doing wrong..My rear Diff felt too tight and it isn't smooth feeling when you turn the out drive... I did take out the all the shims behind the bevel gears.....still too tight
Are you talking abou the diff action of the differential or the smoothness of the transmission? It sounds like the bevel gears aren't seated correctly if you are talking about the diff action.
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The German Kyosho website had great hi-res pics of the EVO.

ENJOY!!!!!!
You'll have to do a little work for the website URL.






Looks cool!
I like the new upper deck! Looks like it can flex more.
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Old 05-27-2006, 10:03 PM   #7013
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Are you talking abou the diff action of the differential or the smoothness of the transmission? It sounds like the bevel gears aren't seated correctly if you are talking about the diff action.
yes.the diff action .How do you know the bevels gears is seated ?
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So Peter ...

We all know that you were seduced by the dark side (Did your MTX-4 come with a sexy babe or something?) - Just come on back to the K Side and well forget that the whole Mugen thing ever happened.
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yes..How do you seated the bevel gear or get it right
You have to make sure the the two large gears at either end of the diff are seated flush with the inside of the case. Have you checked that? It happened to me before.
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So Peter ...

We all know that you were seduced by the dark side (Did your MTX-4 come with a sexy babe or something?) - Just come on back to the K Side and well forget that the whole Mugen thing ever happened.
Man, the Mugen is just TOUGHER. Plus I think the only way I'm going back to Kyosho is if I get sposored by them but I don't think that's going to happen.
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the Spring look yummp .... looking forward to try on it
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the Spring look yummp .... looking forward to try on it
Kinda look like my Mugen springs.
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You have to make sure the the two large gears at either end of the diff are seated flush with the inside of the case. Have you checked that? It happened to me before.
I'm sure the large gear is flush inside the case ..I'll check again...should'nt take long is out of the car...
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I'm sure the large gear is flush inside the case ..I'll check again...should'nt take long is out of the car...
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What weight oil are you using and how high did you fill the diff oil? Only up to the top of the bevel shafts, right?
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