European 2wd 1/8th pan car on-road Classic class
#2941
Tech Regular
Great memory Dale You are correct regarding 1981 and the RC300BD (in fact sumer 1981 started 2wd suspension development )and the machined power pod car (actually still have the car and intend to restore or donate to the museum some day). The reason I switched was it ran better than it ever had at the 1977 world's and I got beat by a herd of Associated RC100's and clones and figured the handwriting was on the wall.
Last edited by Rick Davis; 07-17-2013 at 12:36 PM. Reason: added info
#2942
Hmm
Gee Ned I think you confused him with the picture - he thought it was the young you with a mustache Just a clarification for all the picture is Art Carbonell holding the 1981 Worlds winning car , he won with great driving and race strategy but the handwriting was already on the wall , watching how well the heavy suspension cars cars matched up against our pan cars even on the glass smooth surface - it was my last race with a pan car !!! and if we'd been paying more attention Kondo's performance with the early pan/chain drive 4wd Kyosho was amazing but he broke every qualifier.
Y'all talking about Art and Delta reminds me of a convo I had with Art last year, and it's still gnawing at me. I was really proud that Delta gave me a ride...woo...this meant I got to go out and get knocked over backstretch walls by Rick and Art and Jack and Bruce and God knows how many others. Hell of a learning curve, I might say. But Art won a lot of races for Delta, won a World, the ultimate in bragging rights...and doesn't own a Delta today. Not even the car he won the World with. In Navy parlance, we would consider that a WTF moment.
I left racing in late '85 and wasn't around during the demise of every American manufacturer, including Delta. I do not know the details of Art leaving Delta, and I haven't asked Art since I don't want to pry. But it irks me, more than a little, that he doesn't have a Delta on the shelf, and especially that he doesn't have a SuperJ.
So here's a question for you Rick (and others).....I've got a few of the things laying around. I've been contemplating putting one together to give to Art. Problem is, would he want one, or is there some bad blood/memories existing that he wouldn't? I can't ask the man...I have his email and all, but giving it as a present, I'd rather it be a surprise (and I'm confident he doesn't read this thread, in case anyone was thinking that.) May sound silly, thinking I'd offend the man with a gift, but I just don't know. What're your thoughts....
#2943
Hmmm
Two things of interest:
1. I have a design flaw. Yes, loctite works when applied, but I still ate a spur...I suspect the flex allowed too much gap between spur and pinion. I'll have that issue fixed before the next club race.
2. Not giving up all the details now, but Tom came up with a heck of an idea for a diff. We have a commercially availible gear diff which we know to be proven and solid. It's relatively cheap (less than 40 bucks.) It's readily availible (at least four manufacturers). And we believe we can retrofit it to fit a SuperJ or 300. It'll require redesign of the rear axle to accept it, but that also means being able to run conventional rims/tires.
My thinking is not only would it work nicely in a vintage car, but it'll also fit very nicely in the Edam prototype. Which means it'd also fit in the Moto's and such. I'll try to have a SuperJ fitted by GLC time, it'll be Tom's backup car in case the GT is still having probs.
By the way, Mr. History....I've got several Futaras sitting in boxes, if you're short of something to make them work, give me a yell.
1. I have a design flaw. Yes, loctite works when applied, but I still ate a spur...I suspect the flex allowed too much gap between spur and pinion. I'll have that issue fixed before the next club race.
2. Not giving up all the details now, but Tom came up with a heck of an idea for a diff. We have a commercially availible gear diff which we know to be proven and solid. It's relatively cheap (less than 40 bucks.) It's readily availible (at least four manufacturers). And we believe we can retrofit it to fit a SuperJ or 300. It'll require redesign of the rear axle to accept it, but that also means being able to run conventional rims/tires.
My thinking is not only would it work nicely in a vintage car, but it'll also fit very nicely in the Edam prototype. Which means it'd also fit in the Moto's and such. I'll try to have a SuperJ fitted by GLC time, it'll be Tom's backup car in case the GT is still having probs.
By the way, Mr. History....I've got several Futaras sitting in boxes, if you're short of something to make them work, give me a yell.
#2944
#2945
Great memory Dale You are correct regarding 1981 and the RC300BD (in fact sumer 1981 started 2wd suspension development )and the machined power pod car (actually still have the car and intend to restore or donate to the museum some day). The reason I switched was it ran better than it ever had at the 1977 world's and I got beat by a herd of Associated RC100's and clones and figured the handwriting was on the wall.
remember us Delta guys trying to mount the RPM brake on the JL. The Associated cars were wicked fast on that track and We also discovered the molded front rubber the Associated guys were running although the molded
tires had been offered by Associated for years, we just never tried them.
I hope you do restore your Power Pod car, It was a piece of art. Do I remember you using a few Delta pieces such as the Delta Clutch?
Dale
#2946
Tech Regular
Yeah, I was at the 77 worlds at Thorpe's track. I did not drive, but I was pitting for M. Queller and Steve Sanders. The Associated drivers pretty much dominated the Main. They also introduced the RPM Disc brake at that race. I
remember us Delta guys trying to mount the RPM brake on the JL. The Associated cars were wicked fast on that track and We also discovered the molded front rubber the Associated guys were running although the molded
tires had been offered by Associated for years, we just never tried them.
I hope you do restore your Power Pod car, It was a piece of art. Do I remember you using a few Delta pieces such as the Delta Clutch?
Dale
remember us Delta guys trying to mount the RPM brake on the JL. The Associated cars were wicked fast on that track and We also discovered the molded front rubber the Associated guys were running although the molded
tires had been offered by Associated for years, we just never tried them.
I hope you do restore your Power Pod car, It was a piece of art. Do I remember you using a few Delta pieces such as the Delta Clutch?
Dale
#2947
Uh.....
One of my worst habits in life is a failure to get rid of stuff. Like the big Goldwing I've been meaning to sell because I can't ride it anymore. Engines and transmissions out of cars and trucks. And yeah, a ton of RC stuff. I suspect it will only get worse with age.
#2948
One of my worst habits in life is a failure to get rid of stuff. Like the big Goldwing I've been meaning to sell because I can't ride it anymore. Engines and transmissions out of cars and trucks. And yeah, a ton of RC stuff. I suspect it will only get worse with age.
"Hoarders"... Except instead of cockroaches and garbage
in his kitchen... It's bown up RC engines and 40
year old chassis....😜
#2949
Hey!
Yes, it's true I do have a P2 sitting on the credenza. And three Elfin bodies in a box I haven't even opened yet next to the front door. And a P4 on the kitchen table. Two sets of tires next to my elbow here on the desk. Several boxes of P2/P4 parts in the hallway. But at least I can still maneuver about downstairs, as opposed to UPSTAIRS, where the boxes of all the other crap are.....
I'm still hoping two guys show up at the GLC that I've talked to that are interested in cleaning me out of all my old stuff. It's been so long since I've seen the carpet that I'm not entirely sure what color it is anymore....
#2950
Tech Regular
TREASURES !
Now that's just depressing.
Yes, it's true I do have a P2 sitting on the credenza. And three Elfin bodies in a box I haven't even opened yet next to the front door. And a P4 on the kitchen table. Two sets of tires next to my elbow here on the desk. Several boxes of P2/P4 parts in the hallway. But at least I can still maneuver about downstairs, as opposed to UPSTAIRS, where the boxes of all the other crap are.....
I'm still hoping two guys show up at the GLC that I've talked to that are interested in cleaning me out of all my old stuff. It's been so long since I've seen the carpet that I'm not entirely sure what color it is anymore....
Yes, it's true I do have a P2 sitting on the credenza. And three Elfin bodies in a box I haven't even opened yet next to the front door. And a P4 on the kitchen table. Two sets of tires next to my elbow here on the desk. Several boxes of P2/P4 parts in the hallway. But at least I can still maneuver about downstairs, as opposed to UPSTAIRS, where the boxes of all the other crap are.....
I'm still hoping two guys show up at the GLC that I've talked to that are interested in cleaning me out of all my old stuff. It's been so long since I've seen the carpet that I'm not entirely sure what color it is anymore....
#2951
Heh
Yeah. Right. She's about as liberal as I am conservative, and she's twice as stubborn as her mother ever was. There are days I wonder what I was thinking when I encouraged her to speak her mind and stand her ground when she thought she was right. With that said, she's a good kid....but I have to confess I'm looking forward to the day when she has kids of her own. I will cheerfully babysit, load 'em up on sugar and caffeine till they are just a blur, then send 'em home. Sweet, sweet revenge.
#2952
Yeah. Right. She's about as liberal as I am conservative, and she's twice as stubborn as her mother ever was. There are days I wonder what I was thinking when I encouraged her to speak her mind and stand her ground when she thought she was right. With that said, she's a good kid....but I have to confess I'm looking forward to the day when she has kids of her own. I will cheerfully babysit, load 'em up on sugar and caffeine till they are just a blur, then send 'em home. Sweet, sweet revenge.
#2953
Uh oh
I recently got an email from Ted Hammer. Seems he's in Puerto Rico, got mugged, lost his passport, and desperately needs money to get back home. Hmm. Aside from the fact I don't see Ted racing in Puerto Rico, I couldn't see me as a first call for help, suspect he has family and all....
Then, can you believe it, I got a very similar email from Rick Davis. See, there must have been a race after all, and the same schmuck that robbed Ted got Rick too. Damn.
Wait, it gets worse...got an email from Art Carbonell, and there must be a crime spree going on down there since he too got mugged, lost his passport, etc.
I bet the next email I get is from myself. I'll have been mugged (see, there IS a crime spree) and lost my passport (which I don't have in the first place) and also need help getting home. I'm notoriously bad about paying myself back, so I might just tell myself that I'm broke and can't help at present.
(Yes, I suspect another email virus is making the rounds.)
Then, can you believe it, I got a very similar email from Rick Davis. See, there must have been a race after all, and the same schmuck that robbed Ted got Rick too. Damn.
Wait, it gets worse...got an email from Art Carbonell, and there must be a crime spree going on down there since he too got mugged, lost his passport, etc.
I bet the next email I get is from myself. I'll have been mugged (see, there IS a crime spree) and lost my passport (which I don't have in the first place) and also need help getting home. I'm notoriously bad about paying myself back, so I might just tell myself that I'm broke and can't help at present.
(Yes, I suspect another email virus is making the rounds.)
#2954
I recently got an email from Ted Hammer. Seems he's in Puerto Rico, got mugged, lost his passport, and desperately needs money to get back home. Hmm. Aside from the fact I don't see Ted racing in Puerto Rico, I couldn't see me as a first call for help, suspect he has family and all....
Then, can you believe it, I got a very similar email from Rick Davis. See, there must have been a race after all, and the same schmuck that robbed Ted got Rick too. Damn.
Wait, it gets worse...got an email from Art Carbonell, and there must be a crime spree going on down there since he too got mugged, lost his passport, etc.
I bet the next email I get is from myself. I'll have been mugged (see, there IS a crime spree) and lost my passport (which I don't have in the first place) and also need help getting home. I'm notoriously bad about paying myself back, so I might just tell myself that I'm broke and can't help at present.
(Yes, I suspect another email virus is making the rounds.)
Then, can you believe it, I got a very similar email from Rick Davis. See, there must have been a race after all, and the same schmuck that robbed Ted got Rick too. Damn.
Wait, it gets worse...got an email from Art Carbonell, and there must be a crime spree going on down there since he too got mugged, lost his passport, etc.
I bet the next email I get is from myself. I'll have been mugged (see, there IS a crime spree) and lost my passport (which I don't have in the first place) and also need help getting home. I'm notoriously bad about paying myself back, so I might just tell myself that I'm broke and can't help at present.
(Yes, I suspect another email virus is making the rounds.)
#2955