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Herbie 05-25-2004 03:55 AM


Originally posted by markp27
If you're engine is a turbo engine, get the 6TF glow plug - look at all the team driver setups for the 710 - they virtually all use them.

I don't think I could cope if I were racing in two classes :eek:

The mr12 engine has a normal plug :( I like the turbo better. Don't know why but it is a feeling I guess. Seems that with a turboplug the engine iddles better so I have to get a turbobutton for the engine.

First driving the 950r makes driving the 710 easy and fun. Don't think it will work when racing though. So I think I'll driving the 710 and play pitbabe for my brother who's probably driving his first clubrace in 1/8. :D

markp27 05-25-2004 04:04 AM


Originally posted by Herbie
The mr12 engine has a normal plug :( I like the turbo better. Don't know why but it is a feeling I guess. Seems that with a turboplug the engine iddles better so I have to get a turbobutton for the engine.

First driving the 950r makes driving the 710 easy and fun. Don't think it will work when racing though. So I think I'll driving the 710 and play pitbabe for my brother who's probably driving his first clubrace in 1/8. :D

Have a look in the FAQ - Rob K. gives some good tips on the glow plug choice.

Cheers, Mark.

Sow&Steady 05-25-2004 04:52 AM

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Originally posted by markp27
Hey Sow, can you edit the software for the chat room - or get some other features - think we found out pretty quick we need a function to boot someone out or block comments :nod:

Yes! You're right and I've been working on it this morning. Will let you know. Actually I 'm working on it now too ... to make it recognise your 3hobby.com username so that epople can't go in and spoof someone else.

For now please go and register in the chat itself just to ensure that no one else can use your username :)

markp27 05-25-2004 05:05 AM

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Originally posted by Sow&Steady
Yes! You're right and I've been working on it this morning. Will let you know. Actually I 'm working on it now too ... to make it recognise your 3hobby.com username so that epople can't go in and spoof someone else.

For now please go and register in the chat itself just to ensure that no one else can use your username :)

Done :-)

Sow&Steady 05-25-2004 05:14 AM

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Originally posted by markp27
Done :-)
OK great ... and since you're the first to do that (after me of course) you're officially the Admin of 3Hobby.Com's Chat room :)

You'll see your name italicised when you login, this means you're a big chief sitting bull there :lol:!

Now go check out this on how you can excercise that big boot of yours :lol: :sneaky:

markp27 05-25-2004 05:46 AM

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Originally posted by Sow&Steady
OK great ... and since you're the first to do that (after me of course) you're officially the Admin of 3Hobby.Com's Chat room :)

You'll see your name italicised when you login, this means you're a big chief sitting bull there :lol:!

Now go check out this on how you can excercise that big boot of yours :lol: :sneaky:

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: POWER!!! Anyone messes with me :flaming: :flaming: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sow&Steady 05-25-2004 05:50 AM

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Originally posted by markp27
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: POWER!!! Anyone messes with me :flaming: :flaming: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You bet! Don't mess with MarkP! :nod: :nod: :nod:

GlennCauley 05-25-2004 06:23 AM

Finally had my S710 running on the weekend.
Practice day to break in the engine and get used to the car...

GlennCauley 05-25-2004 06:28 AM

Re: What's this thing?
 

Originally posted by markp27
http://shop.the-border.nl/customer/p...cat=331&page=1

Is this a pressure regulator for the engine - saw something similar at the race last week. The guy with the 710 had some attachment which meant that the fuel system remained pressuried even during no throttle - he said it was analogous to using a capacitor on an electric motor.
He said it really helped the pick up out of the corners.

Anyone have experience of this?


This is a boost bottle that connects to the crankcase. You have to drill into the crankcase and install a pressure nipple. Then the boost bottle connects to the engine by a short length of tubing.

These things are used to even out the pressure pulses of the engine to produce a smoother powerband. The practice has been around for ages and is used in 2-stroke motorcycles (esp. MX bikes).

However, for RC these things are totally useless. The bottle is waaaayyyyy too small to be of any use. This product is just a marketing cash-grab.

markp27 05-25-2004 07:21 AM


Originally posted by GlennCauley
Finally had my S710 running on the weekend.
Practice day to break in the engine and get used to the car...

How was the feeling with the car, Glenn?

markp27 05-25-2004 07:21 AM

Re: Re: What's this thing?
 

Originally posted by GlennCauley
This is a boost bottle that connects to the crankcase. You have to drill into the crankcase and install a pressure nipple. Then the boost bottle connects to the engine by a short length of tubing.

These things are used to even out the pressure pulses of the engine to produce a smoother powerband. The practice has been around for ages and is used in 2-stroke motorcycles (esp. MX bikes).

However, for RC these things are totally useless. The bottle is waaaayyyyy too small to be of any use. This product is just a marketing cash-grab.

Thanks for the info - I would have fallen for it :D :cry:

Sow&Steady 05-25-2004 07:27 AM


Originally posted by GlennCauley
Finally had my S710 running on the weekend.
Practice day to break in the engine and get used to the car...

Right on! the bodyshells are ready ... very very nice! :nod: :nod: :nod:

markp27 05-25-2004 07:30 AM

Hey guys look what Santa brought me
 
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PIC!

Sow&Steady 05-25-2004 07:34 AM

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Originally posted by markp27
Thanks for the info - I would have fallen for it :D :cry:

Man! You've really fallen in the racing bug.

Tried the LCS yet?

GlennCauley 05-25-2004 07:34 AM


Originally posted by markp27
How was the feeling with the car, Glenn?

3 words (and they are not "made of glass") :nod:

Oh... my... gawd !!!!!! :D


My 2106 engine was SUCH a pain to break in... got stuck so many times due to cylinder pinch, it took nearly 1 hour to get it running properly. And that was with pre-heating the head with a heatgun.

Funny thing about heat guns... when you heat up the engine with a heatgun, you know when to stop when you can see the fuel start bubbling in the tank. :)
I should also have known better than to point the heat gun directly at the airfilter (I melted the mesh screen on my Motor Saver airfilter cage) and also softened the top rubber of the rear belt a bit. I had a bit of brain-fade that day.

This engine is going to be a monster... it sounded a lot stronger than the .15 in my S835.

With the stock set-up and stock tires I went to a practice track that was set up Saturday in a parking lot. The lot was not swept, but they did spray sugar-water.

When I ran it I thought I would take it easy to break in the engine properly and not kill anything on the car. I richened the engine a bit (3/4 turn) and then went out.

Oh... my... gawd...

The engine is so strong it is scary. And that was not even broken in yet! I'm glad I modded the clutch... it worked perfectly! Also, the shift point was perfect! I have never had that happen before on the first run.

With smoke trailing and the engine burbling just a hint, I used my favourite 3/4-to-full throttle break-in. On a windy day with temp of about 20C, the engine got up to 225F after I leaned it in a bit after some runs.

Oh... my... gawd...

At the end of the straight, I could pitch the car sideways and do a powerslide at will. The car pushed a bit through the tight stuff, but that is mostly because the track design was much too tight (purposefully). I will play with springs a bit and maybe tires, but the stock setup is a GREAT starting place.

WOW... what a car!!!!!


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