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S710_Nut 01-11-2004 01:27 PM

Re: Re: First Race Update!
 

Originally posted by Julius
The problem is that there is no uniform definition on offset. So eventhough different rims claim to be 0 offset they might well differ.

Where is the mark on the hubs

Just in front off the turnbuckle

Julius 01-11-2004 01:38 PM


Originally posted by NitroHead
I didn't think it was meant to be for permanent use... According to the supplement; 1. Assemble the gears and the clutch housing. Use the thin shim between the two gears. Use the supplied pinion gear tools to tighten the gears.
2. Dissassemble the parts again. Clean everything thoroughly and put it together again. Follow this procedure with every new gear you put on. "Once the gears have 'settled' it is not neccessary to do it anymore"

What have the rest of you guys done with the shim...Left it in, or took it out?

It is supposed to stay in! It makes the gears run true, like a sealant. I'm not sure there is a seperate part number. I know it is supplied with every 1st speed pinion though.

NitroHead 01-11-2004 02:24 PM

good to know! since there is no part No.#

clmbia45 01-11-2004 07:36 PM

:D

I'm sure those close to Serpent do not want to overstate the case for the 710. But this is a GREAT car.
I just finished 2 days driving it (while breaking in a new engine) on a slightly dusty track with fair traction. Temperature in the mid 60's. My durometer indicated that the kit tires were probably F/R 40/37. The car understeered alot. I didn't have any red springs, so I changed to F/R 40/40, and this helped a little. Then I changed the DRS to the "above" position and there was a noticible lessening of the push in the high speed sweepers, but it was also better in the infield. Then I shortened the position on the anti-roll bar about 2mm, and the car is now nearly dead neutral when it drifts at high speed, with just a little too much front push left. I quit at this point waiting for the red springs, which should be here tomorrow.
In a word, the car is, DRIVABLE!
I sold my two MTX3s at the track today.
:nod:

tIANcI 01-11-2004 08:08 PM


Originally posted by clmbia45
:D

I'm sure those close to Serpent do not want to overstate the case for the 710. But this is a GREAT car.
I just finished 2 days driving it (while breaking in a new engine) on a slightly dusty track with fair traction. Temperature in the mid 60's. My durometer indicated that the kit tires were probably F/R 40/37. The car understeered alot. I didn't have any red springs, so I changed to F/R 40/40, and this helped a little. Then I changed the DRS to the "above" position and there was a noticible lessening of the push in the high speed sweepers, but it was also better in the infield. Then I shortened the position on the anti-roll bar about 2mm, and the car is now nearly dead neutral when it drifts at high speed, with just a little too much front push left. I quit at this point waiting for the red springs, which should be here tomorrow.
In a word, the car is, DRIVABLE!
I sold my two MTX3s at the track today.
:nod:

Sold your Mugens? You TURNCOAT!!! Hahahaaaa ... the 710 is a very nimble car for sure. Heck of a light too. I will still keep my Mugen!

jfc_tech 01-11-2004 08:18 PM

Im selling my GS Racing Vision Pro if anyone wants:blush: :blush: So that i can buy another 710 kit for spare...u know, buying the 2nd full kit is much cheaper that buying spare parts individually.

Sow&Steady: I can't find any digital caliper here in Malaysia which i can order...if any, pls order for me. i apy cash thru interbank transfer :D

Sow&Steady 01-11-2004 09:44 PM


Originally posted by jfc_tech

Sow&Steady: I can't find any digital caliper here in Malaysia which i can order...if any, pls order for me. i apy cash thru interbank transfer :D

JFC, I got mine via eBay :)

You'll find that PayPal will not allow you to sign up but a lot of the sellers accept money orders. Alternatively sign up with BidPay ... you give them your credit card number and they send the money order to where ever.

kenchoco 01-11-2004 09:55 PM

missing bag 11 of 710
 
how many people are missing bag of their 710 car?i keep hearing things about how thw whole bag is missing......choco

Pyramid 01-11-2004 10:36 PM

Re: Pinion Gear Spacer
 

Originally posted by JABRONI
I've changed my gearing a few times and I can tell the small/thin spacer that was sent as a supplement to the kit is not going to last very long. after two gear changes it is starting to get chewed up.

Anyone know of a part # and where to get one??

#802511 Centax-3 gear-shim alu
This shim will also be supplied with the 16T and 17T gears.

If you have free time, about that 2mm mod, please take a shoot from the side showing carb and the tank braket. No worries on the machinning.

NitroHead 01-11-2004 10:51 PM

Pyramid, I received my 16T Centax-3 Gearpinion last week and the shim was not included. Thats why I thought it was not meant as a permanent part of the Centax-3 System.

Pyramid 01-11-2004 11:34 PM


Originally posted by NitroHead
Pyramid, I received my 16T Centax-3 Gearpinion last week and the shim was not included. Thats why I thought it was not meant as a permanent part of the Centax-3 System.
You might want to ask Serpent for this one...

jfc_tech 01-11-2004 11:59 PM


Originally posted by Sow&Steady
JFC, I got mine via eBay :)

You'll find that PayPal will not allow you to sign up but a lot of the sellers accept money orders. Alternatively sign up with BidPay ... you give them your credit card number and they send the money order to where ever.

Thanks but im not willing 2 give away my credit card no. nosirreee:)

Maybe i just use my feel & touch things. The clutch nut measurement is actually a matter of engage early or later...so i think i manage without "digital measurement". I just use my "analog" caliper:blush: :D
Thanks Sow&Steady. Hopefully InitialD can shed me some light on this.:nod:

Sow&Steady 01-12-2004 12:01 AM


Originally posted by NitroHead
Pyramid, I received my 16T Centax-3 Gearpinion last week and the shim was not included. Thats why I thought it was not meant as a permanent part of the Centax-3 System.
Same here. I bought the 16T pinion, # 802516 and the package definitely does not include the shim!

Sow&Steady 01-12-2004 12:06 AM


Originally posted by jfc_tech
...so i think i manage without "digital measurement". I just use my "analog" caliper:blush: :D
Thanks Sow&Steady. Hopefully InitialD can shed me some light on this.:nod:

An analog one will do but for an old boy like me, the focussing is a little weak. I need to see actual numbers to best judge whether its right or wrong. :lol:

Master D may be a little quiet, probably still in Bangkok. Or maybe resting at home and wondering what he can share with us from M. Salven's "Tech Talk" to cut off 1 second per lap! :nod:

jfc_tech 01-12-2004 12:27 AM


Originally posted by Sow&Steady
An analog one will do but for an old boy like me, the focussing is a little weak. I need to see actual numbers to best judge whether its right or wrong. :lol:

Master D may be a little quiet, probably still in Bangkok. Or maybe resting at home and wondering what he can share with us from M. Salven's "Tech Talk" to cut off 1 second per lap! :nod:

i pity u..:blush: :smile:

Master D for sure got a lot of things he learnt there but whether he would share or not.....i think we have to fork out some green note...or bigger RM(MY) for him to open his mouth :D :lol:

I hope he didn't really make lots of laps...coz if manage 100 laps, meaning 100 secs to cut off:lol: :lol: :lol:


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