Serpent 710
#1981
Tech Champion
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Originally posted by lawndoggie
A quick question though... I my is sliding a bit at the rear... If I don't not want to change tire shore (40/40) and do not want to change spring (Red front/yellow rear) is there anything I can do to make the rear bit onto the track a bit better?
Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A quick question though... I my is sliding a bit at the rear... If I don't not want to change tire shore (40/40) and do not want to change spring (Red front/yellow rear) is there anything I can do to make the rear bit onto the track a bit better?
Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you still don't have enough traction at rear.........I think you need to upgrade to 710, then ask Julius to set your car, LOL.
#1982
Originally posted by lawndoggie
if I contine improving with this pace, maybe I'll get the 710 in 3 months
if I contine improving with this pace, maybe I'll get the 710 in 3 months
#1983
Tech Regular
Originally posted by InitialD
Hey, where is the 710 that I send you recently?
Hey, where is the 710 that I send you recently?
BTW, I did a little mod on the novamax, with titanium carb, all silver plated screws, special carved out "hallow" crank shaft, and of course my special signiature on the heat sink....
#1984
Originally posted by Julius
I made a mistake.....
I made a mistake.....
Originally posted by Julius
The arm needs to be at 90 degrees to the servo not the link. That is the optimum setting to get left/right as close as possible. I'll go back and edit my previous posts.
The arm needs to be at 90 degrees to the servo not the link. That is the optimum setting to get left/right as close as possible. I'll go back and edit my previous posts.
Taking Pyramid's and Goldfinger's advise, I added about 0.5 mm shim between the servo horn and linkage connection to clear the servo horn from rubbing the ball cup when the servo is at the end of the travel towards the rear (right turn). The linkage movement clears the front belt barely.
#1985
Originally posted by Julius
You'll need to cut the balls and rod a little.
We'll look into this issue and see if we can improve it for future kits. Please provide info on any mod you made.
You'll need to cut the balls and rod a little.
We'll look into this issue and see if we can improve it for future kits. Please provide info on any mod you made.
I also trimmed the length of the ball cups. The picture attached shows clearly.
This gives the total length of the ball cup and rod linkage assembly as 39.5 mm instead of 44.5 mm.
#1986
Steering Linkage Pic 1
Here's a top view of how it looks like when the steering is turned full lock to the right.
Julius, on the Hudy gauge, how many degrees do you set for left and right? My steering reaches about 26 degrees left and right from neutral. I think this is the maximum travel the steering will go. At least for the right turn.
Julius, on the Hudy gauge, how many degrees do you set for left and right? My steering reaches about 26 degrees left and right from neutral. I think this is the maximum travel the steering will go. At least for the right turn.
#1987
Steering Linkage Pic 2
Another pic showing a different angle.
#1988
Re: Steering Linkage Pic 2
Originally posted by InitialD
Another pic showing a different angle.
Another pic showing a different angle.
#1989
Re: Re: Steering Linkage Pic 2
Originally posted by Sow&Steady
D, that servo horn did not looked as if it needed to turn much before hitting full lock. Is that right? Does the car feel sensitive when you drive it?
D, that servo horn did not looked as if it needed to turn much before hitting full lock. Is that right? Does the car feel sensitive when you drive it?
The servo horn did not look as if it had to turn much at full lock because the servo horn was already in the forward position (about 90 degree to the linkage and not 90 degree to the servo casing) when the left and right steering is dead in the center at neutral position.
#1990
Re: Steering Linkage Pic 1
Originally posted by InitialD
Here's a top view of how it looks like when the steering is turned full lock to the right.
Julius, on the Hudy gauge, how many degrees do you set for left and right? My steering reaches about 26 degrees left and right from neutral. I think this is the maximum travel the steering will go. At least for the right turn.
Here's a top view of how it looks like when the steering is turned full lock to the right.
Julius, on the Hudy gauge, how many degrees do you set for left and right? My steering reaches about 26 degrees left and right from neutral. I think this is the maximum travel the steering will go. At least for the right turn.
#1991
Originally posted by InitialD
Ummm, this is not what I found out. When you set the linkage shorter (I use 39.5 mm in the linkage length instead of 44.5 mm), the servo horn on the steering linkage needs to lean forward instead of being 90 degree centered to the servo casing to get the wheels centered left and right. Hence the servo horn cannot be 90 degrees to the servo casing. It needs to be at 90 degrees with the linkage arm.
Ummm, this is not what I found out. When you set the linkage shorter (I use 39.5 mm in the linkage length instead of 44.5 mm), the servo horn on the steering linkage needs to lean forward instead of being 90 degree centered to the servo casing to get the wheels centered left and right. Hence the servo horn cannot be 90 degrees to the servo casing. It needs to be at 90 degrees with the linkage arm.
As long as the epa settings are close it's ok.
#1992
Re: Steering Linkage Pic 2
Originally posted by InitialD
Another pic showing a different angle.
Another pic showing a different angle.
#1993
Tech Fanatic
Originally posted by Julius
Why is your point the 2nd spur gear? Do you mean the 1st speed gear, because it touched the drs arm?
Why use the steel balls? Did you rip out a thread?
Why is your point the 2nd spur gear? Do you mean the 1st speed gear, because it touched the drs arm?
Why use the steel balls? Did you rip out a thread?
Fastharry, it was 1st spur gear that was touches by the arm.
With aluminium(stock) balls, especially if the rear camber is set 4 deg. a hard impact from back side of the wheel will rip out arm thread.
#1994
Tech Fanatic
Re: Re: Steering Linkage Pic 2
Originally posted by Sow&Steady
D, that servo horn did not looked as if it needed to turn much before hitting full lock. Is that right? Does the car feel sensitive when you drive it?
D, that servo horn did not looked as if it needed to turn much before hitting full lock. Is that right? Does the car feel sensitive when you drive it?
You will need all the travel(EPA).
Next week I will try softer FR tire like Julius said. This is my 1st time ever, to test a car using softer front tires.
#1995
Tech Fanatic
Julius, there is one thing I forget to ask you:
Pls check Initial D picture about steering linkage in normal position.
When I mount the steering rod face up(balls on the top), as the car lean harder it increases the toe in for the outside wheel. At least it will help servo holds this tire in setup position. Which is good for high speed cornering. For low speed cornering the present ackerman angle is big enough to do it smoothly.
If I build it face down (just like manual) the toe change (bump steer) is only happen when you brake hard but not changing the toe setup as the car leans out when cornering.
All above is only my theory and i mount it on top eventually, only because im feeling better..
Question is: Which is better for tight and small track?
Pls check Initial D picture about steering linkage in normal position.
When I mount the steering rod face up(balls on the top), as the car lean harder it increases the toe in for the outside wheel. At least it will help servo holds this tire in setup position. Which is good for high speed cornering. For low speed cornering the present ackerman angle is big enough to do it smoothly.
If I build it face down (just like manual) the toe change (bump steer) is only happen when you brake hard but not changing the toe setup as the car leans out when cornering.
All above is only my theory and i mount it on top eventually, only because im feeling better..
Question is: Which is better for tight and small track?