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Originally posted by Picard I noticed you are running the standard bell housing, any overheating problems with the bearings and the shoe's? |
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Originally posted by InitialD Mark, you need to get the GF "acquainted" with the car and all that greasy hands...:sneaky: :D Secondly - I'm afraid of getting her interested.....then there'd be no escape :eek: :cry: :cry: |
Originally posted by markp27 When I was at the AMCC in the UK, I had Sow have a look at the clutch and he couldn't see what was wrong. Well, so far no problems with them. I know a few who run the stock clutch bell with no problems either...:confused: |
Originally posted by markp27 Interesting comment, Captain! On my current 710, I keep blowing the metal shielded bearings even though I have built the clutch as per Glenn's instructions. When I was at the AMCC in the UK, I had Sow have a look at the clutch and he couldn't see what was wrong. I use the yellow shoe with the standard spring. Clutch gap of about 0.6mm and 0.1mm endplay. You believe this could be due to overheating? The endplay does not sound like alot either mark, How much movement does the bellhousing have when the clutch is assembled? I found also that if there is a fair bit of movement as the clutch engages and snaps onto the thrust bearing then this will also wear the bearings out faster in the clutch also. |
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Originally posted by markp27 Secondly - I'm afraid of getting her interested.....then there'd be no escape :eek: :cry: :cry: Well if not, just get her to get used to the idea that the RC stuff are part of the home's furniture. :lol: If that fails, get a room where she can never access. Specifically RC stuff only. Learn from the professionals with experience. :nod: :lol: |
Originally posted by Picard The only thing I replace is the yellow shoe when it wears. Is the colour of your clutchbell blueish black in colour? That's a sure sign of the metal overheating. Overheating would lead to the bearings failing and the clutch shoes melting. Originally posted by Picard The endplay does not sound like alot either mark, How much movement does the bellhousing have when the clutch is assembled? Originally posted by Picard I found also that if there is a fair bit of movement as the clutch engages and snaps onto the thrust bearing then this will also wear the bearings out faster in the clutch also. |
Originally posted by InitialD You replace your clutch shoes? I never had to do that... Not yet. I'm guessing that the problems you have with your bearings and yoru clutch shoes is due to excessive clutch slip... Is the colour of your clutchbell blueish black in colour? That's a sure sign of the metal overheating. Overheating would lead to the bearings failing and the clutch shoes melting. I think Mark mentioned that it was 0.1 mm end play. Correct. More end play (not to be confused with clutch gap) means more "bang" the bearing will be subjected to. That is why the end play needs to be shimmed correctly so that only very little end play is resulted. :nod: Sorry I though Mark meant he had a .1mm shim at endplay and that is all. You are correct D .1mm is what I run and that should not create any problems. I aggree :nod: I just got the ceramic thrust bearings, not that I have any problems with the standard one's at all, but again with sparksy I have no choice. Mark maybe try the new clutchbell, a few of us over hear run that bell because of the problems you described |
Originally posted by InitialD You should know better than to trust both old pairs of eyes ! :lol: :sweat: Well, so far no problems with them. I know a few who run the stock clutch bell with no problems either...:confused: |
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Originally posted by InitialD :lol: :lol: :lol: That's true. You'd probably have to spend time wrenching, buying spares to replace broken ones more than you would have done yourself. :lol: :lol: :lol: Well if not, just get her to get used to the idea that the RC stuff are part of the home's furniture. :lol: If that fails, get a room where she can never access. Specifically RC stuff only. Learn from the professionals with experience. :nod: :lol: |
Originally posted by Picard No the wear is due to excessive use, got about 5 months out of the shoe and then I replace them, no slip at all but understand what you are saying. Sorry I though Mark meant he had a .1mm shim at endplay and that is all. You are correct D .1mm is what I run and that should not create any problems. I aggree :nod: I just got the ceramic thrust bearings, not that I have any problems with the standard one's at all, but again with sparksy I have no choice. Mark maybe try the new clutchbell, a few of us over hear run that bell because of the problems you described Regarding the old clutchbell, there are no signs of overheating and the clutch seems to engage quite snappily, i.e. no signs of slippage. |
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Got the new serpent tyres on the weekend and saw what you meant about the difference in track width :rolleyes: Had to turn those buckles right in but havent yet used them, used the speedminds, saving them for our next big event. And BTW if they dont grip as well as the SM's at least they look fantastic :lol: |
Originally posted by markp27 Ok, I'll try the new clutchbell. Regarding the old clutchbell, there are no signs of overheating and the clutch seems to engage quite snappily, i.e. no signs of slippage. Also, do you use grease on the thrust bearings and what condition is your spacer between the bearings in? |
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Originally posted by markp27 I hear what you're saying Bro - sneakily replace pot plants with a Tx unit, orniments with cars, paintings with pictures of the Prophets, etc :D Originally posted by markp27 Oh, I'm already there :D but my gear has migrated into the lounge :D She won't like that :eek: :cry: I've still got a couple of hours :D |
Originally posted by Picard I just got the ceramic thrust bearings, not that I have any problems with the standard one's at all, but again with sparksy I have no choice. Looks like sparsky is somekind of Borg, isn't he?:sweat: :lol: |
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Originally posted by Picard Had to turn those buckles right in but havent yet used them, used the speedminds, saving them for our next big event. Originally posted by Picard And BTW if they dont grip as well as the SM's at least they look fantastic :lol: |
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