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Old 01-08-2003, 05:35 PM   #5731
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Just wondering, did you do the 24T pulley mod on your car?? If you have what has involve?
I am not manti

But basically you change the 2 19T pulleys on the mani shaft to 24T pulleys. Then you use different sized belts and away you go!
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But basically you change the 2 19T pulleys on the mani shaft to 24T pulleys. Then you use different sized belts and away you go!
But if you change the side pulley as well then your front will be under drive this is according to my ODR calculation.
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But if you change the side pulley as well then your front will be under drive this is according to my ODR calculation.
No you change 2 pulleys. One to the rear diff and the one on the side belt. Therefore the front and rear gains equal amount of ratio alteration.
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No you change 2 pulleys. One to the rear diff and the one on the side belt. Therefore the front and rear gains equal amount of ratio alteration.
I know what you mean, that's what I thought as well, but it not the same on my speadsheet and the formulas that I use is from serpent network long time ago!
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Old 01-08-2003, 07:14 PM   #5735
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OK I just performed the MTX3 modification.

Some amendments, the king pins and the adjusting nuts come in packs of 2 so you need 2 packs of each.

I removed my kyosho V1RR rear hub and attached the mugen one without changing anything. I screwed the pivot balls in to the same as the RR, .5mm and it is almost perfectly 200mm. Also I did not have to modify the top link at all yet!

With no spacers on the Mugen hub it is almost identical to the top hole of the RR hub So we can only go up from here
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And what shall "we" recomend to use as spacers and what should be a good starting point ?
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Old 01-08-2003, 10:53 PM   #5737
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And what shall "we" recomend to use as spacers and what should be a good starting point ?
Dunno have not got that far yet Manticore recommends 3mm as the starting point. Mine has not hit the track yet
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OK I just performed the MTX3 modification.

Some amendments, the king pins and the adjusting nuts come in packs of 2 so you need 2 packs of each.
I take it that the "king pins" you refer to are the pivot balls for toe control, yeah?

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I removed my kyosho V1RR rear hub and attached the mugen one without changing anything. I screwed the pivot balls in to the same as the RR, .5mm and it is almost perfectly 200mm. Also I did not have to modify the top link at all yet!
Oh, that sounds like it worked out a bit different to Manti's?
Did you use the MTX-3 bones.

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Sounds good to me.
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I take it that the "king pins" you refer to are the pivot balls for toe control, yeah?



Oh, that sounds like it worked out a bit different to Manti's?
Did you use the MTX-3 bones.



Sounds good to me.
Yeah the mugen packaging calls them king pins, they are just pivotballs.

Mantis took a bit more messing around since his was a V1R not a RR. The RR fits the Mugen hubs almost perfectly. You must use longer bones than the v1rr ones at least. Dunno about stock v1r.
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Yeah the mugen packaging calls them king pins, they are just pivotballs.

Mantis took a bit more messing around since his was a V1R not a RR. The RR fits the Mugen hubs almost perfectly. You must use longer bones than the v1rr ones at least. Dunno about stock v1r.
You sure?
Manti's back end looked like a RR to me. - if you will pardon the expression.
Here's his last pic:
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You sure?
Manti's back end looked like a RR to me. - if you will pardon the expression.
Here's his last pic:
to be precise, my V1RR is actually V1R.R

I upgrade it to V1RR from a V1R

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mod from a V1RR, you dont need to adjust camber link

mod from a V1R, you need to adjust camber link to achieve 200mm track width

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I am really confused now...
mine is a V-1-R GRP Wide sponge version. what parts should i get to mod the MTX-3 rear hub?
thanks...
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I am really confused now...
mine is a V-1-R GRP Wide sponge version. what parts should i get to mod the MTX-3 rear hub?
thanks...
same parts
but you need to check track width anyway.
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hahaha.. seem that everyone is jumping on to convert the rear end similar to manti rear......
everyone is loving your rear manti
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hahaha.. seem that everyone is jumping on to convert the rear end similar to manti rear......
everyone is loving your rear manti

yeah....everybody likes Manti's backside..........
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