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asw7576 07-06-2007 12:26 AM

I also want to know somebody ( earlier in this thread ) said that he can fit in Futaba R113iP receiver into Xray radio box. He has not prove it yet.

I have to remove the casing of my receiver ( R113iP ).

Sow&Steady 07-06-2007 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by Teehomo (Post 3459649)
Fair comment Gary. Perhaps I've still got my rose sunnies on. :cool::cool:

I might have to try shaving the Nomadio transceiver to fit in the NT1 though. Although the Spektrum unit bound OK I just have a little niggle that something may go wrong and I end up with a problem. I'd hate to have a radio induced problem on it's fist day.

I think I saw a picture of an NT1 with the Nomadio in it (in the NT1 thread)... fits.

AddictedToRacin 07-06-2007 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by CIMRI (Post 3444200)
I checked your set-sheet. U cut your tires with (left-right) 2 mm split. How was it after final. can you give us some diameters after race.

Diameters after the Race:
FL 57
FR 55,5
RL 56,5
RR 55,5

CIMRI 07-06-2007 02:44 PM

tire
 

Originally Posted by AddictedToRacin (Post 3460751)
Diameters after the Race:
FL 57
FR 55,5
RL 56,5
RR 55,5


Incredible tire wear of the left :eek: How was the haendling in last part of the race. I see you had a lot of tire wear at the rear and left. I think the 2 mm split at the rear did not help so much.
I am wondering some people are using 26 side pulley. How can they haendle with rear tire wear. because w. 26 p. you have 1:1 overdrive ....

AddictedToRacin 07-07-2007 02:26 PM

Well, car was great and I could pushing up to the end. No problem with that, but I discovered that this is never a problem with the XRAY. I had more problems with that with my good ol' Serpent.
I think the effect of the diameter difference was countered by the smaller tyres. But I could not say for sure because my middle belt lost teethes in the race and I couldn't say when because the handling didn't get sad.
But I would definitely use the 25t Mid-Pulley because you prevent pushing from the rear tyres. Also you could use a bigger pulley at the 2-speed-shaft. We tried today a 19t if I remember correct. So one turn more than original. It's way more aggressive into a corner and the belt tension is way better.

madbeats 07-07-2007 03:49 PM

My NT1
 
3 Attachment(s)
All most done, just a few parts needed

AlanL 07-07-2007 07:35 PM

i have TQ two weeks in a row now using the rear brake one way on my nt1 . i have found it allows more mid turn speed and has helped some with tire wear . the car is also more stable coming on or off throttle in all stages of a turn , entry ,mid corner and exit .

the car tranfers less weight to the front off throttle but with a few set up changes it was no problem and the car became easier to drive . tons and tons of the right kind of steering

so to update my experiment with the rear brake pulley oneway went really well , more testing all through next week at the mugen cup race at speedworld.

cheers

Sal Amato 07-07-2007 07:43 PM

What one way pulley are you using ?Xray makes one

royfan33 07-08-2007 09:23 PM

Had the NT1 out today for its best day of racing yet. I'm really starting to get the feel for the car. My setup is getting better, as is my driving.

Today after the 2nd qualifier a thunder storm passed through and it rained for around 20-30 mins. After a long delay for rain and getting the track dry the final quali was skipped and we went straight to the mains. I ended up qualified 4th in the "B" and finished 3rd on a track that had all the sugar washed off. As a rookie I'm very satisfied with the results.

AlanL 07-08-2007 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by sns820 (Post 3463956)
What one way pulley are you using ?Xray makes one

modified serpent , xray does not make one .
the xray pulley had to be machined as well as the serpent one way.

i posted some pix a couple pages back

jaykay 07-09-2007 06:15 AM

The NT1 has the option, to lower the tank 3mm when you use a diffrent receiver battery pack.

I have bought 5x AAA cells, but it seems that these arenīt the right one.

Has anybode of you tried to lower the tank and with which reiceiver battery configuration. (photos?)

brianhatesnitro 07-09-2007 06:28 AM

you need the IB1400 2/3 AA cells in a flat configuration to be able to fit under the tank. and you would need a two cell lipo pack to be able to lower the tank but then you need a voltage regulator and most of them suck (cost the race for the guy leading the offroad nationals by a lap)

I believe the car ends up with a lower CG with the 2/3 AA cells due to more weight being on the bottom of the car, the tank is only being lowered by 4-5mm. The thunderpower 1400 lipo pack is 64 grams, 5 2/3aa cells are about 130 grams.

mtveten 07-09-2007 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by jaykay (Post 3467696)
The NT1 has the option, to lower the tank 3mm when you use a diffrent receiver battery pack.

I have bought 5x AAA cells, but it seems that these arenīt the right one.

Has anybode of you tried to lower the tank and with which reiceiver battery configuration. (photos?)

Build the pack in a 5 accross configuration with 3 cells in the tray and 2 overhanging on the left side of the chassis. With this config you can lower the tank 4.25 mm (flush with bottom of chassis) while removing ~1.5oz of battery weight.

Alternatively you could lower your tank ~ 2.5mm with the std 2/3A pack if you buy the optional graphite battery tray.

Mark

Nexus Racing 07-09-2007 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by brianhatesnitro (Post 3467722)
and you would need a two cell lipo pack to be able to lower the tank but then you need a voltage regulator and most of them suck (cost the race for the guy leading the offroad nationals by a lap)

The Novak regulator seems to hold up pretty good - have you seen any issues with them?

brianhatesnitro 07-09-2007 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by Nexus Racing (Post 3469156)
The Novak regulator seems to hold up pretty good - have you seen any issues with them?

Haven't seen a novak regulator fail yet, I still don't see the reason to remove 70+ grams from the very lowest and most central point in the car though.

jaykay 07-09-2007 11:23 PM


Originally Posted by mtveten (Post 3468142)
Build the pack in a 5 accross configuration with 3 cells in the tray and 2 overhanging on the left side of the chassis. With this config you can lower the tank 4.25 mm (flush with bottom of chassis) while removing ~1.5oz of battery weight.

Alternatively you could lower your tank ~ 2.5mm with the std 2/3A pack if you buy the optional graphite battery tray.

Mark

Ok, this is was I also thought, what would be possible. I will give it a try. :ha:

BlackedOutREVO 07-09-2007 11:52 PM

k guys

i race elec on road

track racing elec os done... nitro only now




can i get a list of what id need to start nitro onroad?

im def doing a nt1:sweat:

AlanL 07-10-2007 01:10 AM

hi blacked out ,

billy happens to have an nt1 in stock your timing is impectable :nod: i know you believe in supporting the facility that provides us a bad a$$ track to run on.

i would be happy to help you with the new car any way i can.
at speedworld there is always plenty of help and you wont find a more laid back crowd.

you'll need a starter box (you can share my starter box to begin if you need to keep costs down ), engine , fuel , fuel bottle , glo starter , tires, the club provides a truer to use on both practice and race days , you already have a steering servo from the eletric tc , so you need a throttle servo , exhaust pipe .
make sure you order the hard option bumper before you run the nt1 , the boards at speedworld as you know are unforgiving , cvd's are a must also imho other than cvd's and the hard bumper the car will work fantastic out of the box , oh you'll need some softer springs than the kit silvers for speedworld .

i know i am forgetting something lol

cheers ,

Alan

Mrclone 07-10-2007 02:52 AM

Anyone has parts wearing out fast at NT1?

How is the durability of the belts as compare to other cars?

CIMRI 07-10-2007 03:25 AM


Originally Posted by Mrclone (Post 3470759)
Anyone has parts wearing out fast at NT1?

How is the durability of the belts as compare to other cars?

Hi ,
I drove 3 races with the same spurs, pulleys and belts. This was 45 min A finals, qualifations and some practice. I have only changed the middel belt in in my last final. Because of the 25 s. pulley is the belt as stock lose. And I was not sure about life! The car is really strong.

rcfoolz 07-10-2007 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Mrclone (Post 3470759)
Anyone has parts wearing out fast at NT1?

How is the durability of the belts as compare to other cars?

My NT1 has been put throught the paces. We run 20min mains at the club track and has been to 2 45min mains, and a 30 min mian, along with several days of practice. The car has over 3 gallons of fuel through it, about 6 hours of actual race time.................I replaced the belts at the 301 race for the main., took them back off and used the old belts till this weekend.
The belts are much better than the previous car I drove, that may be due to the driveline being so free and they don't have the stress.

Apex 07-10-2007 06:01 AM

Anyone know what weight the Black and Silver springs are for the NT1?

brianhatesnitro 07-10-2007 08:14 AM

mine only came with short and long silver springs so i haven't seen the black ones.

Supposedly the short fronts are "similar" to 33lb and the 28lb for the longer rear springs.

teamgp 07-10-2007 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by Nexus Racing (Post 3469156)
The Novak regulator seems to hold up pretty good - have you seen any issues with them?

Same here. My lipo runtime has increased significantly and the switch that comes attached is top notch.

RCFREAK 07-10-2007 12:48 PM

Apex... the black ones were prototype springs.. im pretty sure they are comparable to the blue ones... 28lbs that just came out??

im currently using the serpent reds, 28lbs. stock silver in the back.

Arv.

kenre 07-10-2007 01:11 PM

Hello all,

I would plan to change the rear adjustable roll-bar instead the original one (2.2mm), anyone can explain the features of this parts?? Thank you.:)

Sow&Steady 07-10-2007 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Mrclone (Post 3470759)
Anyone has parts wearing out fast at NT1?

How is the durability of the belts as compare to other cars?

My original stock pulleys for the front side and front mid pulleys did not last too long - the pin from the mid-shaft ate into the slot and by the end of 3 tanks they were rocking back and forth. A factory driver gave me a spare set (for nothing - thanks Mark G!) and I've done at least 6 more tanks since then without any problems. I think it was just the batch in my kit.

I've not raced the car in anger yet but so far no other pulley issues or belt issues. I will need to rebuild the shocks before I race it, they leaked a bit here and there over time.

Sow&Steady 07-10-2007 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by kenre (Post 3471891)
Hello all,

I would plan to change the rear adjustable roll-bar instead the original one (2.2mm), anyone can explain the features of this parts?? Thank you.:)

The new NT1 rear blade type is like any other rear blade anti-roll bar system from other manufacturers ... instead of moving the link in and out on the stock one, you now just rotate the blades to adjust the stiffness of the anti-roll bars.

BlackedOutREVO 07-10-2007 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by AlanL (Post 3470606)
hi blacked out ,

billy happens to have an nt1 in stock your timing is impectable :nod: i know you believe in supporting the facility that provides us a bad a$$ track to run on.

i would be happy to help you with the new car any way i can.
at speedworld there is always plenty of help and you wont find a more laid back crowd.

you'll need a starter box (you can share my starter box to begin if you need to keep costs down ), engine , fuel , fuel bottle , glo starter , tires, the club provides a truer to use on both practice and race days , you already have a steering servo from the eletric tc , so you need a throttle servo , exhaust pipe .
make sure you order the hard option bumper before you run the nt1 , the boards at speedworld as you know are unforgiving , cvd's are a must also imho other than cvd's and the hard bumper the car will work fantastic out of the box , oh you'll need some softer springs than the kit silvers for speedworld .

i know i am forgetting something lol

cheers ,

Alan

i know, not to shabby lol

idk, prolly for my b day, which i could get money soon IDK so yeah

thanks for help! thats awsome!!!!

and cool, about how much to do all this? well over 1000, or? i mean, i just want something to race, i dont need a expensive as heck engine, nor can i really afford it

this kit doesnt even come with cvd's???? that kinda stinks.. and a bumper.. ok, and there not bad, my cyclone hasnt broken in a while from the boards, and i have taken myself out ALOT lol

thanks for the help!

thamjk 07-10-2007 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by rcfoolz (Post 3470960)
My NT1 has been put throught the paces. We run 20min mains at the club track and has been to 2 45min mains, and a 30 min mian, along with several days of practice. The car has over 3 gallons of fuel through it, about 6 hours of actual race time.................I replaced the belts at the 301 race for the main., took them back off and used the old belts till this weekend.
The belts are much better than the previous car I drove, that may be due to the driveline being so free and they don't have the stress.


my serpent belt is very hard to wear off but the teeth on the belt coming off one-by-one and sometimes in a row of 6~7. I am not sure of NT1 has the similar problem because the belt's price of our LHS is as much as twice of other brand.

But good to hear that you are happy with the car....

thamjk 07-10-2007 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady (Post 3472238)

I will need to rebuild the shocks before I race it, they leaked a bit here and there over time.

my 710 is still with the old shock (not RCC shock) and NT1 is having the similar one. So is that mean to say NT1 still has the similar problem?

jaykay 07-11-2007 12:23 AM


Originally Posted by Nexus Racing (Post 3429405)
@ rmdhawaii:
Stock foam bumper - 11.5g / 0.4oz
Optional hard foam bumper - 31g / 1.1oz :eek:

...but I put one on my car anyway :D.

Yesterday I changed the optional back to the stock foam bumper.

optional 29g
stock 6g

Itīs ok to add some weight to the front, but 23g are too much. You will have inversely effect. Too much weight at the front, will increase understeer in corners.

Sow&Steady 07-11-2007 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by thamjk (Post 3473114)
my 710 is still with the old shock (not RCC shock) and NT1 is having the similar one. So is that mean to say NT1 still has the similar problem?

My kit was apparently the very first received by the shop AFTER the few they received for magazines and sponsored drivers. I've not heard anyone else have the pulley or shock problems. Or its just that maybe I'm a rough driver - you know, after driving outlaw 5-ports a few years and then moving to 3-ports legal, I find that I can set my cars up just right for me to drive smooth most of the time but I can also usually get very aggressive with them.

The NT1 drives well out of the box and when I test drive cars I don't baby them around, I just drive them as if I'm trying to win a race on the first lap! :rolleyes::sweat:

BlackedOutREVO 07-11-2007 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady (Post 3475236)
My kit was apparently the very first received by the shop AFTER the few they received for magazines and sponsored drivers. I've not heard anyone else have the pulley or shock problems. Or its just that maybe I'm a rough driver - you know, after driving outlaw 5-ports a few years and then moving to 3-ports legal, I find that I can set my cars up just right for me to drive smooth most of the time but I can also usually get very aggressive with them.

The NT1 drives well out of the box and when I test drive cars I don't baby them around, I just drive them as if I'm trying to win a race on the first lap! :rolleyes::sweat:

i like that style!:sweat::sneaky: me to!

and the nt1 holds up good?

Sow&Steady 07-11-2007 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 3475326)
i like that style!:sweat::sneaky: me to!

and the nt1 holds up good?

I'd say reasonably well.

thamjk 07-11-2007 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady (Post 3475788)
I'd say reasonably well.

I guess thats the way to test the car.

And so what lag of the car that makes you feel its just resonably well and not very very well?

BlackedOutREVO 07-11-2007 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady (Post 3475788)
I'd say reasonably well.

nice


well i want one... just need the cash........

MAVICXXX 07-12-2007 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by Sow&Steady (Post 3475236)
My kit was apparently the very first received by the shop AFTER the few they received for magazines and sponsored drivers. I've not heard anyone else have the pulley or shock problems. Or its just that maybe I'm a rough driver - you know, after driving outlaw 5-ports a few years and then moving to 3-ports legal, I find that I can set my cars up just right for me to drive smooth most of the time but I can also usually get very aggressive with them.

The NT1 drives well out of the box and when I test drive cars I don't baby them around, I just drive them as if I'm trying to win a race on the first lap! :rolleyes::sweat:


Originally Posted by thamjk (Post 3473114)
my 710 is still with the old shock (not RCC shock) and NT1 is having the similar one. So is that mean to say NT1 still has the similar problem?

yep..no problemo..:nod:;)i have a big crash too,just the fron hub and knuckle got damaged,the shockers workin well til now..:cool:

frame_pinjam 07-12-2007 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by MAVICXXX (Post 3477525)
yep..no problemo..:nod:;)i have a big crash too,just the fron hub and knuckle got damaged,the shockers workin well til now..:cool:

Hahahah.....is it worst than me...????:blush:

Sow&Steady 07-13-2007 05:04 AM


Originally Posted by thamjk (Post 3476325)
I guess thats the way to test the car.

And so what lag of the car that makes you feel its just resonably well and not very very well?

I was referring to my particular kit ... taking into account the front pulleys and the shocks. Other than that its holding up very very well then. :D


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