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Old 02-03-2016, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Roelof
Just forbidding tire sauce is a joke. Only handout tires stored at the race organisation or saucing alowed is a good way. As long everyone can have their own tires you can not forbid saucing.

Sadly there are a lot of people who do not like these 2 options and do believe in a drivers agreement. FORGET IT! For sure the people screaming out loud that they do not sauce and want a legal saucing are the ones who are doing it.
Of course you can. Your thinking is flawed. That's like saying forbidding [insert any crime here] is a joke, because it can't be controlled, and the criminals will still be doing it......

Of course forbidding tire sauce is a good thing. Most people won't do it now, and no one can do it easily and openly in the pits.
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Old 02-04-2016, 06:37 AM
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The track won't be the same for you, after the cheaters start running additives that go into the surface of the track, the track will change for you, actually.
You have completely missed my point....
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Old 02-04-2016, 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by JQ
Of course you can. Your thinking is flawed. That's like saying forbidding [insert any crime here] is a joke, because it can't be controlled, and the criminals will still be doing it......

Of course forbidding tire sauce is a good thing. Most people won't do it now, and no one can do it easily and openly in the pits.
It is a joke. Over here in the onroad we have started to use sauce because many were using it already. A guy made a rule proposal of forbidding tire sauce and he "develloped" a detection method. And see who has an unbelieveable stable car.....

Also the funny thing was that when it was illigal the top 10 were using it for years so it seemed. After making it legal these guys were complaining that saucing was too much work..... yeah right, they did not have the advantages of illigal saucing. And we all know the walk to the car on the parking where the saucing is done or the "special" tires are kept.

If you want to be sure no sauce is used you must use a spec tire only handed out by the organisation when going on the track and directly taken in when the driving is stopped. This is the only way to keep maximum control over the tires.
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Originally Posted by Roelof

If you want to be sure no sauce is used you must use a spec tire only handed out by the organisation when going on the track and directly taken in when the driving is stopped. This is the only way to keep maximum control over the tires.
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Old 02-04-2016, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by nv529
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Yep. Sadly. Then you have bagged tires that are kept bagged until racing starts - so you never actually sauce at the track. You sauce everything the morning of or day before, bag it, then only take them out each run.
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Only the fastest guys will be able to utilise the extra grip with traction compound, not "desperate backmarkers" so the new rule actually helps the backmarkers...
Umm also I thought 1/8 scale racing was open to whatever compound you want to use, so why not just chuck on some softer tyres, if grip is low?
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Old 02-04-2016, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by UrabusDenis
I'd reccomend a simple rule regarding the (often thin) line between tire wash and additive: if you're willing to drink it, you can use it on your tires
Don't encourage us to drink even more, get enough beer in the evenings as it is.....I wonder if it works on tires???
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Old 02-04-2016, 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jabberingjimbo
Don't encourage us to drink even more, get enough beer in the evenings as it is.....I wonder if it works on tires???
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Old 02-05-2016, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Roelof
It is a joke. Over here in the onroad we have started to use sauce because many were using it already. A guy made a rule proposal of forbidding tire sauce and he "develloped" a detection method. And see who has an unbelieveable stable car.....

Also the funny thing was that when it was illigal the top 10 were using it for years so it seemed. After making it legal these guys were complaining that saucing was too much work..... yeah right, they did not have the advantages of illigal saucing. And we all know the walk to the car on the parking where the saucing is done or the "special" tires are kept.

If you want to be sure no sauce is used you must use a spec tire only handed out by the organisation when going on the track and directly taken in when the driving is stopped. This is the only way to keep maximum control over the tires.
Yes that's the best way, but not allowing tyre sauce is better than nothing.
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Old 02-05-2016, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BigInJapan
Only the fastest guys will be able to utilise the extra grip with traction compound, not "desperate backmarkers" so the new rule actually helps the backmarkers...
Umm also I thought 1/8 scale racing was open to whatever compound you want to use, so why not just chuck on some softer tyres, if grip is low?
Because we are already running the softest compounds
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Old 02-06-2016, 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by JQ
Yes that's the best way, but not allowing tyre sauce is better than nothing.
As said before..... Own tires and just forbidding sauce is lending a hand to the cheaters and sadly that happens...
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Old 02-06-2016, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Roelof
As said before..... Own tires and just forbidding sauce is lending a hand to the cheaters and sadly that happens...
Yes but the best drivers will still win, and they have too much to lose to cheat.
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So just a few weeks away any word on tire sauce yes or no?????
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Old 03-15-2016, 12:39 AM
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No additive, it has been announced
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