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#1126
Tech Addict
My buggy is too aggressive on steering and as a consequence in rear is slipping a lot.
It happens to me when I enter the curve to turn almost 180 degrees. Very sharply enters the curve.
My steering servo is Spektrum S6250. Radio is Spektrum DX4R.
Tires: NEW AKA Impact
oil in diffs 5-10-3
shocks: front-1,5mm with 35wt, rear-1,6mm with 45wt, all green springs
Front Toe: -1
Front Camber: -2
Front ride hight: 28
Rear Camber: -3
Rear ride hight: 29
It happens to me when I enter the curve to turn almost 180 degrees. Very sharply enters the curve.
My steering servo is Spektrum S6250. Radio is Spektrum DX4R.
Tires: NEW AKA Impact
oil in diffs 5-10-3
shocks: front-1,5mm with 35wt, rear-1,6mm with 45wt, all green springs
Front Toe: -1
Front Camber: -2
Front ride hight: 28
Rear Camber: -3
Rear ride hight: 29
ride height down i would try 27/28 tank full.
#1128
Tech Apprentice
Well your shock setup seems very wrong to me... Rear shock oil should always be thinner than the front. Also the front is way too soft if you use 1.5 pistons, thats why you have that much steering. Did you try the standard setup ?
Apart from the shocks you should try thicker diff oil in the front, less camber in the rear and the setup changes that where posted in this thread before (ADI "D" plate...).
Did you try the standard setup ?
Apart from the shocks you should try thicker diff oil in the front, less camber in the rear and the setup changes that where posted in this thread before (ADI "D" plate...).
Did you try the standard setup ?
With standard setup do similarly. Look like that the steering servo are too fast and they make rear are unstable.
What you think to try with 10-10-3 diff oil.
#1129
Tech Master
iTrader: (25)
You're absolutely right about the oil in shocks, I do not know how I overlooked it. Outside temperature is 40C. Our track has a very good grip.
With standard setup do similarly. Look like that the steering servo are too fast and they make rear are unstable.
What you think to try with 10-10-3 diff oil.
With standard setup do similarly. Look like that the steering servo are too fast and they make rear are unstable.
What you think to try with 10-10-3 diff oil.
#1130
Tech Apprentice
#1132
Help with Aggressive Motor hit
Trying to tame my Nova Drake. Granted the motor is still breaking in somewhat. Clutch set up is all Carbon shoes with all Green springs. I have attempted to see if using Expo could smooth it out but really felt no difference. I have adjusted the low end speed needle many different ways only for it to not have enough to clear some jumps but it made the aggressive hit better yet the motor lagged. The car itself is great and handles well for me on my current setup. This is the final piece to my puzzle. I need help/suggestions regarding taming this hit, making it somewhat linear and drivable similar to an EBuggy. If this is the wrong section sorry.
#1133
Tech Champion
iTrader: (208)
Trying to tame my Nova Drake. Granted the motor is still breaking in somewhat. Clutch set up is all Carbon shoes with all Green springs. I have attempted to see if using Expo could smooth it out but really felt no difference. I have adjusted the low end speed needle many different ways only for it to not have enough to clear some jumps but it made the aggressive hit better yet the motor lagged. The car itself is great and handles well for me on my current setup. This is the final piece to my puzzle. I need help/suggestions regarding taming this hit, making it somewhat linear and drivable similar to an EBuggy. If this is the wrong section sorry.
Use the steel flywheel. That should help make a more linear feel.
#1134
Already running a steel flywheel. Any other ideas or suggestions?
#1137
Try softer clutch springs. 2x green/2x black
#1138
Tech Regular
iTrader: (1)
You're absolutely right about the oil in shocks, I do not know how I overlooked it. Outside temperature is 40C. Our track has a very good grip.
With standard setup do similarly. Look like that the steering servo are too fast and they make rear are unstable.
What you think to try with 10-10-3 diff oil.
With standard setup do similarly. Look like that the steering servo are too fast and they make rear are unstable.
What you think to try with 10-10-3 diff oil.
#1139
Tech Master
iTrader: (46)
Learn to "blip" the throttle and also use the overdrive front diff. if your back end keeps kicking out. It will be hard to get close to that "linear feeling" with a nitro engine unless you wanna run a 4-stroke. Some engines have a longer power band then others. One reason why some get their engines modded is to get more of that linear feeling..."power band". Nitro and electric are 2 different beasts. I have watched guy's that race with only 1/2 throttle "endpoint" set on their radios, they look so smooth on a flowing track. But a track with short run ups to big jumps you might need 3/4 endpoint set. Just something more you can try.
#1140
Tech Master
iTrader: (25)
Few mod questions I have for any experts on the 8 3.0/4.0
I'm looking at upgrading a few things on my losi 8 3.0 closer to a 4.0 and also taking a few mods off for performance gain in flex and over all durability. I'm not sure what works, so this is why I'm posting it in the 4.0 thread hoping any of you drivers that made the jump can give me some feedback and information..
Mod parts I want to add and need advice if used by you.From most important to just an interest in trying, here they are.
Shocks
There are a few brands with after market pistons, some are aluminum (fioroni T. A. P.) some plastic (vrp gamechangers, competition suspension red and blue pistons) (Flashpoint brass pistons also) , what has been a good product in the losi shocks so far? I'm very interested in upgrading my 3.0 shocks.. I believe caps changed, I don't see caps changing much?
Mods
The new brakes and rotors, will they fit my 3.0 and are they much better?
The radio tray stiffener that attaches to the center diff is a must? Can it work with the aluminum center diff (bulkheads)? And also is the aluminum tri horn able to use the stiffener attachment to the center diff? I'm really interested in the tri horn if it's better.
I have aluminum spindles but plastic carriers, is this better for flex? I think only the spindles broke at the turnbuckle attachment correct?
Losi made new aluminum servo saver bellcranks TLR341007 will this eliminate some steering slop? Does this part add unnecessary rigid feeling to buggy?
Fioroni makes light weight aluminum diff cases, at a small increase on oil does it make a difference? I'm really interested in this upgrade..
The overdrive gears for front diff?
Flex
The rear uprights (hubs) I'm thinking of going back to plastic, who's with me on feeling the aluminum are a little rigid?
The aluminum center diff mount, it was really expensive but I notice the bottom brake cam catches, and I have a lot of high velocity wobble on the box coming from the center diff, maybe to much brake gap but I really think it's from brake cams or in general the wobble I can feel with my finger when rocking it from the cups, is it normal to have a little slop or should the diff be solid when bolted up? I'm thinking of going to stock simply because I notice an increase in clutch bearing failure and a big increase in my clutch bell getting notchy and worn out faster, maybe from the added rigitidity from the aluminum center diff mount makes on throttle chew up the gears.
The new 4.0 has upgraded universals like a kyosho, are the better in the front then the old style 2.0 universals? Right now I have dog bones everywhere exept the front but don't no if the new ones for the 4.0 will work??
These are alot of questions, I plan on posting in 3.0/4.0 threads so I can pull the trigger and get what's best. I love tuning on the 8s they have always responded well to upgrades.
I'm looking at upgrading a few things on my losi 8 3.0 closer to a 4.0 and also taking a few mods off for performance gain in flex and over all durability. I'm not sure what works, so this is why I'm posting it in the 4.0 thread hoping any of you drivers that made the jump can give me some feedback and information..
Mod parts I want to add and need advice if used by you.From most important to just an interest in trying, here they are.
Shocks
There are a few brands with after market pistons, some are aluminum (fioroni T. A. P.) some plastic (vrp gamechangers, competition suspension red and blue pistons) (Flashpoint brass pistons also) , what has been a good product in the losi shocks so far? I'm very interested in upgrading my 3.0 shocks.. I believe caps changed, I don't see caps changing much?
Mods
The new brakes and rotors, will they fit my 3.0 and are they much better?
The radio tray stiffener that attaches to the center diff is a must? Can it work with the aluminum center diff (bulkheads)? And also is the aluminum tri horn able to use the stiffener attachment to the center diff? I'm really interested in the tri horn if it's better.
I have aluminum spindles but plastic carriers, is this better for flex? I think only the spindles broke at the turnbuckle attachment correct?
Losi made new aluminum servo saver bellcranks TLR341007 will this eliminate some steering slop? Does this part add unnecessary rigid feeling to buggy?
Fioroni makes light weight aluminum diff cases, at a small increase on oil does it make a difference? I'm really interested in this upgrade..
The overdrive gears for front diff?
Flex
The rear uprights (hubs) I'm thinking of going back to plastic, who's with me on feeling the aluminum are a little rigid?
The aluminum center diff mount, it was really expensive but I notice the bottom brake cam catches, and I have a lot of high velocity wobble on the box coming from the center diff, maybe to much brake gap but I really think it's from brake cams or in general the wobble I can feel with my finger when rocking it from the cups, is it normal to have a little slop or should the diff be solid when bolted up? I'm thinking of going to stock simply because I notice an increase in clutch bearing failure and a big increase in my clutch bell getting notchy and worn out faster, maybe from the added rigitidity from the aluminum center diff mount makes on throttle chew up the gears.
The new 4.0 has upgraded universals like a kyosho, are the better in the front then the old style 2.0 universals? Right now I have dog bones everywhere exept the front but don't no if the new ones for the 4.0 will work??
These are alot of questions, I plan on posting in 3.0/4.0 threads so I can pull the trigger and get what's best. I love tuning on the 8s they have always responded well to upgrades.
Last edited by Matt Piva; 08-16-2017 at 05:10 PM.