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Dragn,
That sucks that you have to live like that. What do you do for a living? I can't relate. My mom is Pilipino, so our house was always in order. My wife is also a clean freak and border line germophobe. She even hates having dogs in the house because of the dirt they bring in. I, on the other hand, can be a bit of clutter slob, but I don't let the clutter sit for more than a few days.

Well,
California is now sticking it to the taxpayers again. Now, the more money you make, the more you have to pay for electricity.

Sorry to hear that man. That sounds like a punishment for working hard(er) to earn more. Congratulations! You get to pay more for your power and utilities etc. Never mind getting ahead of your cost. You may come out better being homeless in California and on the streets.

OffRoadJunkie: I think you may have gotten confessed or forgot to put an or but you can't be both agnostic and an atheist. Atheists flat-out disbelieve in the existence of god, while agnostics focus on science not currently having the processes to prove or disprove the existence of God. I would argue the idea of there being more proof there is a God than there is showing there isn't at least not in the biblical sense. I would support an ancient astronaut model and do think that is the more likely situation. But Christianity isn't my target it's not a religion mass murdering people yearly.
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I am still kicking myself over that shipping fuck up I did

i make electrical coils and refurbish elevating and charging motors for big ass breakers.

Speed,
I had to read what you were talking about a couple times then go back to what I wrote. Yes, I didn't add the "and."

I was born in a religious family. After turning 18, I quit going to church and believing. I got married, a few years later, got divorced, partied hard, clubbed hard, and tried to meet as many women as possible. After 30, I woke up one morning thinking "I can't do this forever." Even though I would wake up with chick next to me, I still felt hollow. A friend suggested going to church. I didn't believe in it, so she told me to research it. First was proving there was no God. Then it went to proving there was. I went back and forth with it and what it boiled down to, science cannot prove there is a God, but science can't prove how we got here. However, there are numerous signs of a high being. If you believe there is an ancient astronaut who may have been the creator of this planet, that will make that person a God, by definition.

Either way, you mentioned faith, which is absolutely correct. I had to choose whether to have faith in science or faith in God. There are too many empty holes in science that causes a too many questions. This mean if I chose science, it would also be with faith and not due to pure knowledge. This led me to have faith that there is a God. For me, it made more sense.

The Christian faith use to be the main excuse for mass killings. Not anymore. Now it's those who follow the Karan. I've looked into that religion, during my studies, and that has some pretty crazy stuff in it.

Dragn.
Have you tried to look into working outside of Cali?

As soon as my kids are out of high school, I will be looking to get out. There is way too much crap in the works right now. As long as Newsom is in office, California is only going to get worse. If the democrats take the presidency again, there is going to be some crap coming. I would share it, but then it will just be looked at as propaganda. However, it does look like Newsom will be running for President, so we will majorly be screwed. He wants to give the immigrants everything. Your area is going to get hit really hard, within a couple years.

not yet. im making pretty good money and me leaving would majorly screw my boss/business owner over. im the only employee theyve got. he doesn't know how to run the CNC table, after years of the same questions constantly has questions about how to operate the CNC winders. doesnt seem to know how to wire up the elevating motors with a switch. doesnt know how to set up or run the injection molders. ether can't or doesn't want to hand wind the 230v fields for our most popular elevating motor. lately he's been having problems with his hands. he had some procedure done to like disconnect some nerve or something because he was having some kind of constant pain. sense then he's lost a lot of clamping force with that hand and is still experiencing the pain. its like the threshold for the pain shifted.
when i was out sick a few weeks ago (feb 12 - 16) i think all he did was fill basic coil orders. the hard stuff and custom stuff just sat waiting for me to come back.

If you want to define god as an entity that has technology far beyond our grasp then sure I have no issue with that. But what I was referring to is that I have an issue with the biblical sense of god. Can you point to Christianity being the excuse for mass killing because I have studied murder rates due to religious conquest before and I mean "religious" not war fought for resources where the people happen to be of a particular religion. The conquests of Islam in India alone has a 8-figure death count the Crusades don't come close. My entire family is Christian I have zero interest in becoming one, but I am able to separate the bullshit from the media trying to force-feed the idea of Christians being the worst thing on earth meanwhile the religion that is known for forced removal of clits from girls for purity reason is seen as the religion of peace. I get heated about that and I don't even have kids.