Tamiya TB-Evolution III
#3437
I STILL haven't put my surikarn car together yet so I don't have any way of translating a setup to that car....woops
Basically, rebound stroke=droop, so I put down that value twice. Atleast on the sheet I did. I asked why there are two "rebound stroke" but nobody knew.
I measure droop with the wheels off the car and the chassis flat on a setup board. I use a ride height gauge to measure from the board up the lowest point in the suspension. This is typically the trailing edge of the rear hubs (not the arm..the hub sits a touch lower) and in the front, I draw a visual line straight down from the hingepin and measure the lowest point from that reference. I put little arrows on the setup sheet so you can get an idea of where I measure from.
Basically, rebound stroke=droop, so I put down that value twice. Atleast on the sheet I did. I asked why there are two "rebound stroke" but nobody knew.
I measure droop with the wheels off the car and the chassis flat on a setup board. I use a ride height gauge to measure from the board up the lowest point in the suspension. This is typically the trailing edge of the rear hubs (not the arm..the hub sits a touch lower) and in the front, I draw a visual line straight down from the hingepin and measure the lowest point from that reference. I put little arrows on the setup sheet so you can get an idea of where I measure from.
#3438
Tech Elite
iTrader: (12)
Rod, I'm sorry bro. I was in a hurry... I was wondering if you were one in the same. I remember someone congratulating you on here now that I think about it. Well good job bro.
5.94 FDR- wow!! You were rollin dat ho! lmao
I have a few questions-
-did you try this setup with no swaybars? Did you HAVE to have swaybars?
-did it seem a little mushy with the 400/300 shock oil? Would you have gone up on oil with more time to tune?
About the machined oneway plate- I bet that is pretty trick, but I believe the problem is not so much the ring gear (assuming you at least have the CF plate), but the EXTREME slop in the beveled pinion gear bearing seat. They called themselves trying to make it float, but the shaft can't hold it against the ring gear under a hard load such as you described. Hey, I have an idea- I'll PM you right now.
5.94 FDR- wow!! You were rollin dat ho! lmao
I have a few questions-
-did you try this setup with no swaybars? Did you HAVE to have swaybars?
-did it seem a little mushy with the 400/300 shock oil? Would you have gone up on oil with more time to tune?
About the machined oneway plate- I bet that is pretty trick, but I believe the problem is not so much the ring gear (assuming you at least have the CF plate), but the EXTREME slop in the beveled pinion gear bearing seat. They called themselves trying to make it float, but the shaft can't hold it against the ring gear under a hard load such as you described. Hey, I have an idea- I'll PM you right now.
#3439
Originally posted by ARC MotorSports
V12 - any chance you could take a couple pictures of the one-way you are using? It would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
V12 - any chance you could take a couple pictures of the one-way you are using? It would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
The final release of the oneway as the one sitting in my EVO3 looks much better also there were some changes for lower weight.
But what is the same with the prototyp is the position of the gear and the large backing plate so you can see how it´s working.
I´m not sure if I have the time for making pictures before next monday as I´m leaving in just over a day for the nationals.
#3441
Originally posted by BigDogRacing
5.94 FDR- wow!! You were rollin dat ho! lmao
I have a few questions-
-did you try this setup with no swaybars? Did you HAVE to have swaybars?
-did it seem a little mushy with the 400/300 shock oil? Would you have gone up on oil with more time to tune?
5.94 FDR- wow!! You were rollin dat ho! lmao
I have a few questions-
-did you try this setup with no swaybars? Did you HAVE to have swaybars?
-did it seem a little mushy with the 400/300 shock oil? Would you have gone up on oil with more time to tune?
I tried it without sway bars and it seemed to roll too much in corners and scrub speed. One thing I did do was change to a red sway bar in the front when the track cooled down a bit to get a touch more steering (that was the only tuning change I did during the Reedy Race hehe)
The 400-300 shock oil wasn't mushy at all. Combined with the 2-hole pistons and 2 o-rings and bled to have a little bit of pack. Along with Asc. Gold/Silver and mounted in the outter/2nd outter hole on the shock tower, the car felt very direct. I had other sets of shocks with 600-500 oil if it got really hot but never really tried them. The car was good on the 2nd controlled practice run and I didn't want to mess with anything else...just drive and work on motor.
#3442
Tech Elite
iTrader: (12)
Daaaaaamn, you have multiple sets of shocks already built? You really ARE my hero!!!
That's really good information Rod. Thank you very much.
Have you ever done a track comparison switching between the red foam thingys and the two black o-rings? I'm curious if you can actually feel the added rebound.
BTW- receive the credit- ROFLMAO
That's really good information Rod. Thank you very much.
Have you ever done a track comparison switching between the red foam thingys and the two black o-rings? I'm curious if you can actually feel the added rebound.
BTW- receive the credit- ROFLMAO
#3443
Tech Apprentice
Thanks V12, that picture is very good. If you have time after the nationals, it would be nice to see the final version, but no rush.
#3444
Originally posted by rtypec
Basically, rebound stroke=droop, so I put down that value twice. Atleast on the sheet I did. I asked why there are two "rebound stroke" but nobody knew.
Basically, rebound stroke=droop, so I put down that value twice. Atleast on the sheet I did. I asked why there are two "rebound stroke" but nobody knew.
Tony
#3445
This looks like a nice option for the TBEVO3... MMMM back to the traditional BLUE!
49335 TB EVO 3 BLUE CONVERSION KIT
49335 TB EVO 3 BLUE CONVERSION KIT
#3446
Which spring sets you guys usually use? when on high grip / low grip (like rubber on carpet), I want some opinion...thanks.
#3447
Tech Rookie
rtypec, the 2 rebound strokes on the setup sheet is a typo. the second one for each end of the car should be wheel spacer.
This is what suzuki told me at the uk reedy race.
This is what suzuki told me at the uk reedy race.
#3448
Originally posted by Jonny Boy
rtypec, the 2 rebound strokes on the setup sheet is a typo. the second one for each end of the car should be wheel spacer.
This is what suzuki told me at the uk reedy race.
rtypec, the 2 rebound strokes on the setup sheet is a typo. the second one for each end of the car should be wheel spacer.
This is what suzuki told me at the uk reedy race.
Wanna here what I was thinking it was for? And this is a total crack fiend idea...I thought it was the amount of uptravel the suspension arm had before the other side would lift when using sway bars. Did you know you can fine tune your swaybars by moving ball connector hooshmu thingy in and out? Further out should be slightly lighter and closer in would be stiffer...I think it also affects how direct they are. Okay, I'm a cracker haha
#3450
Anybody know about the difference on the front uprights C1/C2?
I´m just in the final preparation for the nationals beginning tomorrow. Now I noticed the front uprights at my EVO3 are not as in the manual being C1 for right and C2 for left side. I bought the EVO3 as prebuild by another racer and he switched them over so the C2 is on the right and C1 is on the left side currently.
I´m just in the final preparation for the nationals beginning tomorrow. Now I noticed the front uprights at my EVO3 are not as in the manual being C1 for right and C2 for left side. I bought the EVO3 as prebuild by another racer and he switched them over so the C2 is on the right and C1 is on the left side currently.