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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Regarding AT21ST-A, what is the ball diameter?
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4.8 mm
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What is CWF? If I had to guess I’d say carbon weave fiber even though I’ve always heard carbon fiber weave.
Carbon Woven Fiber - let me know if I got it wrong

Why did everyone run the Carbon chassis at TITC, despite the crazy grip?

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Carbon Woven Fiber - let me know if I got it wrong

Why did everyone run the Carbon chassis at TITC, despite the crazy grip?
It was very bumpy
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4.8 mm
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Originally Posted by Lonestar
Carbon Woven Fiber - let me know if I got it wrong

Why did everyone run the Carbon chassis at TITC, despite the crazy grip?
I believe some of the Infinity drivers used Aluminum chassis at the TITC race.
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Looks like I am going to be press-ganged into some mod touring on asphalt this coming season. I have never ran asphalt, so this will be fun.. I have an 800R that has been a shelf queen, so I ordered a carbon chassis for it and some other goodies, and most importantly, a Hobbywing 4.5T motor, cause why not... I have a 5.0 and a 6.0 as well, but the track is 210*90.

Anyway, tires. How long do tires last on asphalt with mod (I heard 3 runs, this seems pretty bad)? Decent starting setup? I think in the discord it says a base asphalt setup is still in the works. And any suggestions for someone who doesn't get to put a car on the track very often anymore?
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Carbon Woven Fiber - let me know if I got it wrong

Why did everyone run the Carbon chassis at TITC, despite the crazy grip?
No carbon woven fiber is perfectly fine, just wasn't familiar with it, but I learned something, thank you.
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Looks like I am going to be press-ganged into some mod touring on asphalt this coming season. I have never ran asphalt, so this will be fun.. I have an 800R that has been a shelf queen, so I ordered a carbon chassis for it and some other goodies, and most importantly, a Hobbywing 4.5T motor, cause why not... I have a 5.0 and a 6.0 as well, but the track is 210*90.

Anyway, tires. How long do tires last on asphalt with mod (I heard 3 runs, this seems pretty bad)? Decent starting setup? I think in the discord it says a base asphalt setup is still in the works. And any suggestions for someone who doesn't get to put a car on the track very often anymore?
What asphalt track? I may have to bring kemp to one if its closer to us than Florida!

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What asphalt track? I may have to bring kemp to one if its closer to us than Florida!

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Queen City, it is about 2 hours away for me, so probably 6 ish hours for you.
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Queen City, it is about 2 hours away for me, so probably 6 ish hours for you.
5:28 according to Maps! Not too bad!! Do they use a spec tire for electric?

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5:28 according to Maps! Not too bad!! Do they use a spec tire for electric?

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I am asking on their Facebook group. I think we are looking into Sweep 36. I'm planning on going to their "test and tune" on April 13 and then the first race on April 14. Looks like they will have series 2 races a month.
It would be cool to have you and Kemp come out.
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I am asking on their Facebook group. I think we are looking into Sweep 36. I'm planning on going to their "test and tune" on April 13 and then the first race on April 14. Looks like they will have series 2 races a month.
It would be cool to have you and Kemp come out.
No spec tire at this point. So if there is any insight to what would be ran at the Worlds that would be great. And, bring your own power! Not sure if that is a common thing for outdoors, but their on site power is extremely limited.
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No spec tire at this point. So if there is any insight to what would be ran at the Worlds that would be great. And, bring your own power! Not sure if that is a common thing for outdoors, but their on site power is extremely limited.
Sweep 36D. OK I'll look into trying to make it up. They run electric on a regular basis in the summer or just now and then?

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Sweep 36D. OK I'll look into trying to make it up. They run electric on a regular basis in the summer or just now and then?

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They have a series schedule of 9 races from April to the end of September. Some months have 2 races. Not sure what they normally run, but it looks like there are a few trying to get a Pro 10 class going as well.
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