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A800R Released March 23, 2023 with two kit versions, A800RA (alloy) and A800RC (carbon)


Mid Motor Content ---

New Part Releases
  • January 2020 - A800-AM24-20 Servo Holder - combine servo holder and steering holder to one single part.
  • February 2020 - A800-ADC Advanced Damper Cup Set - Reduces the amount of rebuild routines. It offers the possibility to A) remove air and B) add oil into the damper without the need of full disassembling
  • January 2021 - A800-BDL - Body Downtravel Limiter, replaces SPR08
  • March 2021 - A800-P138LFA - 38T Pully Low Friction - For Gear Diff
  • March 2021 - A800-P138S-LFA 38T Spool Pulley Low Friction - For Spool
  • April 2021 - A800-C27MMX - Full Length Top Deck for A800MMX
  • May 2021 - A800-C01MMA Alloy Chassis - Battery position is shifted to the front to achieve a better overall weight distribution. Removes short arm holes. New narrower shape
  • September 2021 - A800-C04M1+7.0 Arm - narrows the track width for lower grip levels
  • October 2021 - AM180EVO Single Bellcrank Steering Update - AM180EVO is a direct replacement for AM180M5

A800MMX and A800MMXA Kit Updates
  • AM152/AM24-8 is replaced by AM24-20 in this kit (UPDATE 08.03.2021)
  • P138/P138S is replaced by P138-1/P138S-1 in this kit (UPDATE 25.03.2021)
  • C01B-X-MMA is replaced by C01MMA in MMXA kit (UPDATE 26.05.2021)
  • AM180M5 is replaced by AM180EVO in this kit (UPDATE 21.09.2021)


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A800 Information
New Parts
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01-98 - The version of SPR01 springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • June 2016: A800-SPR01S-98 - The version of SPR01S springs with reduced angle of the tips bending. Recommended for using with new SPR02H3 Shock Rod Guides.
  • May / June 2016: A800-AM14A - includes new optional "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A700-AM14-3 - removes the prior "longer" hole on steering arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C04AL+0.5 - 0.5mm wider alloy suspension arm
  • May / June 2016: A800-C01B-2.25 - 2.25mm carbon main plate (best suited for asphalt racing)
  • May / June 2016: A800-D2.2 - Dampers that support a thicker SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H3 - Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper
  • May / June 2016: A800-AT41-2 - Damper vane for the D2.2 damper designed to work w/ SPR02H3
  • May / June 2016: A800-SPR02H - Stronger Shock Rod Guides for the D2.0 and D2.1 damper versions
  • May 2016: A800-AM19-4 - Currently used in the rear of a kit. With AM19-4 the top link effective length is 0,7mm shorter compare to AM19-2. Also with AM19-4 the flex of suspension is smaller ( similar to more stiffer arm and c-hub of normal cars). The screws on dampers are more accessible for adjustment.
  • January 2017 - SPRO2X - new for dampers and do not require a 98 degree bent spring.
  • January 2017 - New A800X and A800XA kits now available featuring 0.3mm longer front and rear wheelbase.
Kit Updates
  • May - Current: Kits now including DT10-2-1 bearing holders for increased side play and durability of the differential and spool.
  • May - July 2016: bearings within kits require oil before use
  • May / June 2016: C01B-AL (Khaki) Chassis with 0.5mm/side wider front arm mounts
  • May / June 2016: 2x ST17-1-S replace ST17 - See page 21 of manual
  • May / June 2016: Updated damper, D2.2, introduced
  • May / June 2016: Thicker Shock Rod Guides for the D2.2 damper included with kits, A800-SPR02H3
  • Jan 2016: GD2 Output Axle (ST31-1) update to use blue foam (P46) instead of set screw (used on each side of Axle after assembly)


Setups
Major Race Wins
  • 2016 Reedy Race of Champions - Modified - Julian Wong
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 17.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 Mile High Championship - 13.5 - Kyle Klingforth
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 ROAR On-Road Carpet Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2015/6 ETS Season 9 Round 3 - Xray Pro Stock Division - Tony Streit
  • 2015 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 13.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Roar On-Road Asphalt Nationals - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 International Indoor Championships (IIC) - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Halloween Classic at the Gate - 17.5 - Brad Johnson
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 17.5 - Sam Isaacs
  • 2016 US Indoor Champs - 13.5 -Matt Lyons
  • 2016 Stock Wars - 17.5 - Mike Gee
  • 2016 Hudy Indoor Championship - 17.5 - Brad Johnson

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Old 02-10-2019, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rhodopsine

you will get them, RcMaker is reputable, it might just take some time depending on the shipping type you chose, considering it’s coming from Australia.

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I ordered from RCMaker in Australia, It has been a week and for some reason it is going through Germany.
I may never see them
Sometimes things from him go to different countries but still move fast
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Originally Posted by JeffC
Does anyone have P03 in stock???

Is there a way to remove P03 without damaging it?

I ordered a A21S ballstuds, but don't have enough spare P03 cups to put on all the new studs. Nobody seems to have them in stock. So I either need to re-use some P03 cups, or wait to install A21S until I can get them.

edit: Found P03's at Michaels Hobby in Florida. Still curious if there is anyway to remove them without damaging.
I use the arrowmax turnbuckle/ball joint tool. I have been successful with it, but you have to line it up really well, or you will bend the caps. I had a couple break as well, so not perfect.
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Originally Posted by Oleg Babich
Did you tried to shift CG more to front? This is one of features of Awesomatix successful setups for black CRC carpet.
Thanks for the setup suggestion, Oleg. I did try to shift more weight to the front, but made the front lazy and showed signs of the front wheel lifting off. I discovered the issue and it was a simple fix. I switched from a Montech Racer to a ZooRacing DBX and it stopped.

Lovely car by the way. Only if the kits and parts were cheaper here in Japan, then you would have a strong market over here.
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Originally Posted by ryan391
Sorry for the dumb question, I am new to AMX. can you explain the steering degree. Do you mean in the radio, or is this something I can adjust on the car?

I will try the belt setup. I have mine set on the top, not sure what this affects.
Yes, use your radio to set your end points. Im glad the setup helped.
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How does this chassis compare to the current Evo A and Evo AH chassis'?

Are these "bit more heavy" parts intended for all classes on US black carpet, or are they better suited for certain classes? Are the new parts providing differences in driving feel (stiffer) or durability only?


AM06WL-US / AM19-2US / C01B-XAH2-LA

The C01B-XAH2LA is a 2,0mm 7075 T6 alloy hard lower deck with additional holes for optional +8mm and +9mm longer arms.
The Cutouts/Design is changed to offer more response and better steering feeling combined with the high corner speeds of previous version chassis.

AM19-2US provide exact same geometry as AM19-2.
This new part is made from 3mm thick 7075 T6 high grade alloy, which mean it's 0,5mm thicker than AM19-2.
To keep same rollcenters on toplinks like with AM19-2 its needed to run 0,5mm less shims under ST24 Ball Studs.

AM06WL-US provide exact same sizes as AM06WL.
It has the same nimble for identification on the lower leg than AM06WL, but no flex cut out.

Info: Parts with "US" designation are especially designed for the use at tracks with hard boards/barriers.
During the different design compared to the standard parts, the "US" parts are more reliable at impacts.
Basically this optional parts are a bit more heavy than standard parts.

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Not sure on the chassis.. we will have to try it. With the cutouts in the front I imagine there will be more steering, but My first reaction is I don’t know if that is a good thing or not.

The other US parts are better suited for anyone who has had problems bending/breaking those parts. Our tracks tend to be quite harsh compared to euro tracks. Avid also released some heavy duty AM14LS recently as well for the same reason.
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Now if only they can stop me breaking these bits


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I've never seen an spr01s break
Impressive!
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Anyone have any p04's? I managed to break one trying to install in a vigor carbon arm. It seems they don't sit right in that arm when tightened on the st03.
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Anyone have any p04's? I managed to break one trying to install in a vigor carbon arm. It seems they don't sit right in that arm when tightened on the st03.
https://www.michaelsrchobbies.com/aw...rm-hasp-4.html
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Originally Posted by iTz Nicholas72
Thanks, I placed an order along with some genuine amx +1.5 carbon arms.

Anyone have any suggestions for using the vigor carbon arms? The st03 doesn't go down far enough in the arm for the p04 to clamp properly.

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Originally Posted by nexxus
Now if only they can stop me breaking these bits


a wise racer tought me a way to avoid this "don't crash"
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Originally Posted by trilerian
Thanks, I placed an order along with some genuine amx +1.5 carbon arms.

Anyone have any suggestions for using the vigor carbon arms? The st03 doesn't go down far enough in the arm for the p04 to clamp properly.
They clamp. You just dont have to tighten them up as far as the normal carbon arms. It allows for them to be used even after the arm hole wears out. You can tighten the P04 up a little more as they wear in where on the standard it doesnt have as much adjustment for wear. This is what some others have found on them.

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a wise racer tought me a way to avoid this "don't crash"
Usually a good ploy, but this was courtesy of a back marker deciding to fight against being lapped.

It happens....
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