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niznai 05-06-2014 09:35 AM

I know but couldn't find it anywhere. If you have any pointers, that would be very much appreciated.

cplus 05-07-2014 05:50 PM

What sort of race ready weight are you guys getting with your build?

With a full size stick lipo (5600) I'm at 1315g

A full 65g under!

Gives me plenty of scope to get balance right, but first measurements it seems very neutral out of the box.

dizope 05-07-2014 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by cplus (Post 13245499)
What sort of race ready weight are you guys getting with your build?

With a full size stick lipo (5600) I'm at 1315g

A full 65g under!

Gives me plenty of scope to get balance right, but first measurements it seems very neutral out of the box.

I was at 1310g race ready with a lightweight LTC-R before sticking on 75g to make weight. :(

dizope 05-07-2014 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by 2-Bad (Post 13239788)
That's very low, never heard of anyone using that low cst in a diff before in any make of car (but it maybe needed where you're racing, lol). Is this for carpet or asphalt, what motor class?
If I may, I would suggest you stick with the orange o ring (Kyosho or new Tamiya o-rings, no more leaks) and try getting more off-power steering some other way. Have you thought about adding some anti-dive, reducing your camber, or shorten your rear wheel base...

21.5 and 17.5 blinky ran on a sealed asphalt parking lot sprayed with a fruit punch/water mixture. I rebuilt it with 1000 cst using the black orings to test next time out. Like you suggested, I'll try some other methods to gain off power steering because it definitely wouldn't hurt to have some more on power steering for a few sections due to the thicker diff oil.

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Originally Posted by ittjv (Post 13240469)
Try the Kyosho ones. I've been using those since the gear diff came out and they don't bind at all. Also, if you're leaking from the diff gasket, I found that the rounded side needs to face in. Call me crazy, but since I started doing that no more leaks.
- Jose

Kyosho's are on the way along with some from ARC to try (if they are the right size). It only leaks from the outdrives. I green slime the diff gasket and change it every few rebuilds so it doesn't leak.

cplus 05-07-2014 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by dizope (Post 13246057)
I was at 1310g race ready with a lightweight LTC-R before sticking on 75g to make weight. :(

Acting non-std on yours? Did that include any fans?

I've got a mix of aluminium and titanium screws and some other changes that don't save weight - quite surprised on the scales.

Qatmix 05-08-2014 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by cplus (Post 13245499)
What sort of race ready weight are you guys getting with your build?

With a full size stick lipo (5600) I'm at 1315g

A full 65g under!

Gives me plenty of scope to get balance right, but first measurements it seems very neutral out of the box.

Mine was also nice and underweight, the limit in the UK is 1350 so I had a little less to add to mine to make it race legal :)

d16dcoe45 05-08-2014 07:52 AM

foam bumper?
 
Does anybody know what major touring car brands bumpers are compatible with the 417/418 mounts? Is there a "preferred" bumper guys like? Being that its outdoor season its not quite as crucial but I still get nervous during occasional bad hits--the 418 bumper is pretty narrow!!

dizope 05-08-2014 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by cplus (Post 13246159)
Acting non-std on yours? Did that include any fans?

I've got a mix of aluminium and titanium screws and some other changes that don't save weight - quite surprised on the scales.

No aluminum or titanium screws.

Savox Low Profile 1251
Tamiya aluminum servo horn
Tekin RS Gen2 (does not use a fan)
Killshot 17.5
SMC 6500's
Airtronics 92524 Receiver
R1 6v fan

2-Bad 05-08-2014 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by dizope (Post 13246129)
21.5 and 17.5 blinky ran on a sealed asphalt parking lot sprayed with a fruit punch/water mixture. I rebuilt it with 1000 cst using the black orings to test next time out. Like you suggested, I'll try some other methods to gain off power steering because it definitely wouldn't hurt to have some more on power steering for a few sections due to the thicker diff oil.

Kyosho's are on the way along with some from ARC to try (if they are the right size). It only leaks from the outdrives. I green slime the diff gasket and change it every few rebuilds so it doesn't leak.

Yes I think that's a good plan!
The Tamiya black o-rings may still leak a little even with 1k oil. You shouldn't be disappointed with the Kyosho/Tamiya (orange) o-rings.
If you need help with tuning opinions, just post your full setup and I'm sure you'll get some good opinions from many people here....
Good Luck!!

GMartinez 05-08-2014 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by d16dcoe45 (Post 13246819)
Does anybody know what major touring car brands bumpers are compatible with the 417/418 mounts? Is there a "preferred" bumper guys like? Being that its outdoor season its not quite as crucial but I still get nervous during occasional bad hits--the 418 bumper is pretty narrow!!

I am using the RSD bumper that is for the T4 works perfectly

niznai 05-08-2014 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by dizope (Post 13246057)
I was at 1310g race ready with a lightweight LTC-R before sticking on 75g to make weight. :(

I am at 1280gr with an Xceed Audi A5 body (which is quite light) and LRP 5600 Lipo. All screws are titanium, Futaba low profile servo, and I use Xray or Corally SGX diffs which between them save 30 grams alone. Legal limit here is 1320, so I have 40 grams to play with.

One question. Using a Kimbrough servo saver (http://www.rcplanet.com//v/vspfiles/.../KIM114-2T.jpg), I don't get the full travel. I am aware the manual recommends the long heavy duty servo arm (Tamiya) but wonder if there is a better (arm) option?

d16dcoe45 05-08-2014 10:39 PM

The best servo saver IMO-- and the one that many (if not most) TC drivers use is the Xray ultra stiff. It uses 4 "bands" for stiffness. Better than any Kimbeough saver. Perfect length--the center hole is 18mm from center, I believethe Tamiya alloy one is only 16mm which will leave some travel on the table at least with Futaba radios.

2-Bad 05-09-2014 01:44 AM

+1 Xray Servo Saver

d16dcoe45 05-09-2014 07:38 AM


Originally Posted by GMartinez (Post 13248514)
I am using the RSD bumper that is for the T4 works perfectly

Thank you. Going off that I would presume that standard T4 Bumpers share the same mounting pattern as 417/418 bumpers, yes?

Qatmix 05-09-2014 02:55 PM

Hi guys

With a 96t spur what's the smallest pinion you can fit?

Thanks


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