Hot Bodies Cyclone
04-08-2008, 05:54 AM
as I will run asphalt I cannot take the risk to go more bullish than flush with the chassis - hence 108/27 I guess - which gives me exactly 4, times 2.43 with the std belts/pullies, so we're talking 9.72 overall GR. Ok... seems to be in the acceptable range for a 4.5 To make things slightly more complex, I run 48P only for convenience and reliability reasons. 108 in 64 means 81 in 48, however the "height" of the teeth are also different hence 78 is the largest spur one can go without it sticking below the chassis. 27 pinion in 64 is a 20 in 48, hence that means overall 81/20 - ie 4.08, which again brings us to 9.84. Sounds ok again.
I might avoid buying that BL motor mount in the end, which would be nice
May I ask if the BL you were running had that "bead" on the cage which would mirror the bearing holder on a brushed motor? I'm afraid the motor I'm after (LPR X11) has that bead indeed and hence does not allow me to push the motor all the way back... thanks!Paul
04-08-2008, 06:13 AM
You should be able to run a 81 no problem. That is what I run, 81/32 for a 10.5.
04-08-2008, 06:17 AM
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I run the Mamba Max 7700 and it is flat, sorry I cant say if your LRP will be a problem. Give your post some time, there is a lot of good help on this thread.
04-08-2008, 07:10 AM
Lazerguy - thanks, yes I will leave some time to the others to answer, but I'm soooo eager to go run that Sphere TC + soon to be bought 4.5 screamer with good 7.4 L:
Revo61 - thanks . interesting... I tried an 81 spur in my car not later than saturday, and it hits the chassis AND sticks out... maybe you already have the upgraded motor mount?
All the others - thanks for any help/suggestion you can bring
Regards,
Paul
Revo61 - thanks . interesting... I tried an 81 spur in my car not later than saturday, and it hits the chassis AND sticks out... maybe you already have the upgraded motor mount?
All the others - thanks for any help/suggestion you can bring
Regards,
Paul
04-08-2008, 08:08 AM
You must have been trying a 48p spur and not 64p. An 81T 64p spur would actually be super tiny.
04-08-2008, 08:26 AM
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Jaz.. ran the blue car last weekend!!! loving it... faster guys were in the 14.0 - 14.3s lap times... Blue car went 14.6s already!!! I did check the BMI chassis, it is 2mm longer.. I would like to run the stock chassis and see whats up with rubber tire racing. Thats with a diff and standard layshaft. Cant wait for the double one ways.. pretty sure it may drop the times down..
Im looking for a clean stock chassis...LMK.
Im looking for a clean stock chassis...LMK.
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04-08-2008, 08:37 AM
Jaz.. ran the blue car last weekend!!! loving it... faster guys were in the 14.0 - 14.3s lap times... Blue car went 14.6s already!!! I did check the BMI chassis, it is 2mm longer.. I would like to run the stock chassis and see whats up with rubber tire racing. Thats with a diff and standard layshaft. Cant wait for the double one ways.. pretty sure it may drop the times down..
Im looking for a clean stock chassis...LMK.
Im looking for a clean stock chassis...LMK.
04-08-2008, 09:02 AM
I run 48P only (see above). And a 48P 81 spur hits the chassis (and sticks out) on my car. Let me know if what I wrote above was unclear in any manner.
Paul
04-08-2008, 09:06 AM
04-08-2008, 09:06 AM
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Hi Birdman, I purchased a moorespeed cyclone last week and built Friday/Saturday and did notice that my rear toe was not even both sides. It should be the same 3deg both sides with the 3 deg block. As you look at the car from the front the left rear wheel is only toeing in 1.5deg and the right 3deg when running the standard 3deg block.
I did speak to Mirage Technical and they have tried to help but no joy. I have disassembled the rear of the car and checked everything. I removed the rear pivot pins and rolled them along a flat piece of glass and they are perfect, I have swapped both rear wishbones and hubs for my Tamiya ones and still no change.
I did notice that my cyclone has different colour of carbon than older versions that makes up the chassis, top deck and suspension mounts. Mirage said that HPI have recently changed there carbon supplier and it looks like for a cheaper version IMO, the carbon weave bends as it runs down the chassis and is very light in shade in comparison to the older black carbon. I'm wondering if the holes are incorrectly positioned and this makes my car crab badly. I also do not no where to go next as it is very difficult to find the reason.
Can Anyone Help Please?
I did speak to Mirage Technical and they have tried to help but no joy. I have disassembled the rear of the car and checked everything. I removed the rear pivot pins and rolled them along a flat piece of glass and they are perfect, I have swapped both rear wishbones and hubs for my Tamiya ones and still no change.
I did notice that my cyclone has different colour of carbon than older versions that makes up the chassis, top deck and suspension mounts. Mirage said that HPI have recently changed there carbon supplier and it looks like for a cheaper version IMO, the carbon weave bends as it runs down the chassis and is very light in shade in comparison to the older black carbon. I'm wondering if the holes are incorrectly positioned and this makes my car crab badly. I also do not no where to go next as it is very difficult to find the reason.
Can Anyone Help Please?
Plz Help us.
04-08-2008, 10:08 AM
my car has the same issue, i think all of them do. If you check the car with a setup station you will see one side is truley 3 degrees and the other is about half or 2 degrees.
04-08-2008, 10:14 AM
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The problem is that mine has 3º on the right side and 1º on the left side.
04-08-2008, 10:22 AM
yeah thats how it is, do you think its a tolerance issue with the pivot block?
04-08-2008, 10:46 AM
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i bought my cyclone wce about 6months ago (Normal colour carbon chassis) and everything is equal. I would ask to have the chassis checked. Have you used a proper setup station to check the rear toe (i.e. a hudy setup station) i would make sure everything is correct on the build.
04-08-2008, 11:57 AM
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I Have spoken with Mirage UK who are the distributers for Hot Bodies in the UK and they think that it could be the wishbones or the hubs. They are sending me out a full set to try but I'm not convinced.
I have also been measuring the previous darker carbon chassis and they do measure up differently to the new lighter ones. The toe with the 3deg rear block still only measures 2.25deg each side though not 3deg
