2011 ROAR Electric On-road Paved Nationals at Jackson R/C, NJ 7/28-31
06-15-2011, 08:45 AM
#79
Here is a quote from Steve Pond (Roar President) on the lightweight bodies.
"OK, I talked with our body approval crew, and the Mazda has not been resubmitted for extension, so it will not be legal for use.
Both versions of the LTC ARE legal. This was an approval given on the original part number only, during a time when a suffix was not required, so if it's a 1505 body, it's still legal based on the original approval.
I hope that helps to clarify the body situation. As it stands, the bodies on the list are the ones that need to be used."
This was posted on the ROAR forum (Free to all ROAR members if you sign up for it).
Also I Do believe the Mazda Speed 6 has been resubmitted but has not been re-approved yet. It usually takes a week or so. I'll post once I hear its be re-approved.
EA
"OK, I talked with our body approval crew, and the Mazda has not been resubmitted for extension, so it will not be legal for use.
Both versions of the LTC ARE legal. This was an approval given on the original part number only, during a time when a suffix was not required, so if it's a 1505 body, it's still legal based on the original approval.
I hope that helps to clarify the body situation. As it stands, the bodies on the list are the ones that need to be used."
This was posted on the ROAR forum (Free to all ROAR members if you sign up for it).
Also I Do believe the Mazda Speed 6 has been resubmitted but has not been re-approved yet. It usually takes a week or so. I'll post once I hear its be re-approved.
EA
06-15-2011, 10:08 AM
#80
Here is a quote from Steve Pond (Roar President) on the lightweight bodies.
"OK, I talked with our body approval crew, and the Mazda has not been resubmitted for extension, so it will not be legal for use.
Both versions of the LTC ARE legal. This was an approval given on the original part number only, during a time when a suffix was not required, so if it's a 1505 body, it's still legal based on the original approval.
I hope that helps to clarify the body situation. As it stands, the bodies on the list are the ones that need to be used."
This was posted on the ROAR forum (Free to all ROAR members if you sign up for it).
Also I Do believe the Mazda Speed 6 has been resubmitted but has not been re-approved yet. It usually takes a week or so. I'll post once I hear its be re-approved.
EA
"OK, I talked with our body approval crew, and the Mazda has not been resubmitted for extension, so it will not be legal for use.
Both versions of the LTC ARE legal. This was an approval given on the original part number only, during a time when a suffix was not required, so if it's a 1505 body, it's still legal based on the original approval.
I hope that helps to clarify the body situation. As it stands, the bodies on the list are the ones that need to be used."
This was posted on the ROAR forum (Free to all ROAR members if you sign up for it).
Also I Do believe the Mazda Speed 6 has been resubmitted but has not been re-approved yet. It usually takes a week or so. I'll post once I hear its be re-approved.
EA
06-15-2011, 11:06 AM
#82
per Steve Pond on the ROAR forums:
sounds valid to me - just hope the one-chance or DQ is fully followed
Hello Mike, and thanks for the question.
The logic behind the change in the voltage limit is this... Our current system allows for a maximum voltage, which has resulted in a number of complaints that sitting in the sun, or charger inaccuracy or for a number of other reasons, has increased the pack voltage beyond the legal limit. The competitor is then allowed a chance to run down the pack and rechecked. The 8.5 volt limit was chosen as a level that ANYONE peaking their pack at 8.4V, not matter how long the pack has been sitting in the sun or how bad the accuracy of the charger is, there's no way it can reach 8.5v. In making this change, however, we're also changing how tech inspection is performed. Now it's a one-shot deal. If you go to tech and your battery measures 8.500001v, the driver is DQed for that round or main.
Although some drivers are wanting to get a new charger so they can get that extra .1 volt (which doesn't really make sense because that's gone after the first warm-up lap), they risk being disqualified. We set the limit at a level that's nearly impossible to achieve when peaking a pack at 8.4v, even in a worst case scenario. That way, there's less fanfare about pack voltage and more about racing. But anyone who views this is an opportunity to overcharge their pack and push it right up to the limit, you won't get a second chance. If you tech over the limit, your DQed... period. My advice to everyone would be to continue charging up to an 8.4v peak, and just go racing. If you want to push your luck and get the other .06v because you think it's really going to make a difference on the track, do so at your own peril. No excuses will be accepted and if you fail tech, there's no second chance.
The logic behind the change in the voltage limit is this... Our current system allows for a maximum voltage, which has resulted in a number of complaints that sitting in the sun, or charger inaccuracy or for a number of other reasons, has increased the pack voltage beyond the legal limit. The competitor is then allowed a chance to run down the pack and rechecked. The 8.5 volt limit was chosen as a level that ANYONE peaking their pack at 8.4V, not matter how long the pack has been sitting in the sun or how bad the accuracy of the charger is, there's no way it can reach 8.5v. In making this change, however, we're also changing how tech inspection is performed. Now it's a one-shot deal. If you go to tech and your battery measures 8.500001v, the driver is DQed for that round or main.
Although some drivers are wanting to get a new charger so they can get that extra .1 volt (which doesn't really make sense because that's gone after the first warm-up lap), they risk being disqualified. We set the limit at a level that's nearly impossible to achieve when peaking a pack at 8.4v, even in a worst case scenario. That way, there's less fanfare about pack voltage and more about racing. But anyone who views this is an opportunity to overcharge their pack and push it right up to the limit, you won't get a second chance. If you tech over the limit, your DQed... period. My advice to everyone would be to continue charging up to an 8.4v peak, and just go racing. If you want to push your luck and get the other .06v because you think it's really going to make a difference on the track, do so at your own peril. No excuses will be accepted and if you fail tech, there's no second chance.
06-15-2011, 11:47 AM
#84
Sounds good to me. I hated looking like an idiot doing burnouts on the track during the race before mine because my charger was an overachiever. This should be an improvement. 
Is there a suggested method to find out about he LW P-37's before I paint a couple up for Nats?
See ya in Memphis Eric.
Is there a suggested method to find out about he LW P-37's before I paint a couple up for Nats?
See ya in Memphis Eric.
06-15-2011, 12:39 PM
#85
Sounds good to me. I hated looking like an idiot doing burnouts on the track during the race before mine because my charger was an overachiever. This should be an improvement.
Is there a suggested method to find out about he LW P-37's before I paint a couple up for Nats?
See ya in Memphis Eric.
Is there a suggested method to find out about he LW P-37's before I paint a couple up for Nats?
See ya in Memphis Eric.
EA
06-15-2011, 01:04 PM
#86
EA!!!
06-16-2011, 03:24 PM
#90