Team Losi JRXS
10-04-2005, 06:54 PM
#8119
Originally Posted by W.E.D.Jim
Mdoc, I looked thru my post and couldn't find anything about the "Losi drivers being over the hill".
What I did say was they are all great drivers, but there are about 8-10 drivers, maybe a couple more, that focus "Almost Exclusively" at on-road racing at the highest level. Combined with the fact that they are younger makes it tuff for "Very Good" drivers.
As far as revisions and testing of prototypes by TL, every competitive company does that! BAR NONE! The 415 is about $600 after adding all the latest updates. If you run Yokomo you'll need their newest car if it is released yet? Corally, HPI, X ray, etc....All new, or updated, mostly versions of the 415.
I think in all honesty alot of people who have no idea about the development of a car and the engineering involved think they know by looking at pictures and can tell if it will work. Meanwhile engineers with real degrees and "very Good drivers" have helped in the testing and development of the car, rather then looking at pics of a 415 and making their own...........
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Have the "Drivers" results jumped around much with the lastest changes from the major companies involved.....No. Hara and Masami have even done it with completely different cars.(and 5 mechanics)
Still fun to talk about how much we all know though!...Lets race!..haha, Jim
What I did say was they are all great drivers, but there are about 8-10 drivers, maybe a couple more, that focus "Almost Exclusively" at on-road racing at the highest level. Combined with the fact that they are younger makes it tuff for "Very Good" drivers.
As far as revisions and testing of prototypes by TL, every competitive company does that! BAR NONE! The 415 is about $600 after adding all the latest updates. If you run Yokomo you'll need their newest car if it is released yet? Corally, HPI, X ray, etc....All new, or updated, mostly versions of the 415.
I think in all honesty alot of people who have no idea about the development of a car and the engineering involved think they know by looking at pictures and can tell if it will work. Meanwhile engineers with real degrees and "very Good drivers" have helped in the testing and development of the car, rather then looking at pics of a 415 and making their own...........
.Have the "Drivers" results jumped around much with the lastest changes from the major companies involved.....No. Hara and Masami have even done it with completely different cars.(and 5 mechanics)
Still fun to talk about how much we all know though!...Lets race!..haha, Jim
msx, cyclone, rdx all have extremely low centers of gravity. jrxs doesnt really have this.
also its painfully obvious that short arm suspension is a compromise. maybe im no professional engineer, but i'll eat my shorts if you see any other major manufacturers goto a short arm design when they dont have to. it just makes your instant center vary too much, not to mention track width.
sometimes the sacrifices needed to bring good ideas (centerline weight) into fruition turn out to be greater than the benefits.
no digs on losi, i mean they totally get props for trying to make progress on the center battery concept.
so yeah thats my .02 which isnt the $$$ that real engineers can throw down with, but usually in order to move to the future succesfully you need to know your past
10-04-2005, 07:03 PM
#8120
Originally Posted by 5thscaleracer
Those looking for PK or BK brackets they are now being mass produced with an almost unlimited supply first batch is 1000pcs and smaller batches will be made.
brackets are made out of T7075 aluminum which will be 70% stronger than the current BK/PK brakets. They are being lazer cut so tolerances .001" accuracy. all the holes will be drilled and the 2-56 hole will be pre-tapped.
more info can be found here...
http://www.jrxs.net/forums/index.php...opic=443&st=12
brackets are made out of T7075 aluminum which will be 70% stronger than the current BK/PK brakets. They are being lazer cut so tolerances .001" accuracy. all the holes will be drilled and the 2-56 hole will be pre-tapped.
more info can be found here...
http://www.jrxs.net/forums/index.php...opic=443&st=12
Brant
10-04-2005, 07:04 PM
#8121
Originally Posted by Mdoc
When was the last time someone over 30 won the worlds? This is a real question, not sarcasism.
I few weeks ago Lamberto Collari........
i think there are lots of drivers over 30 that are plenty capable of winning major races
I few weeks ago Lamberto Collari........
i think there are lots of drivers over 30 that are plenty capable of winning major races
10-04-2005, 07:39 PM
#8122
also its painfully obvious that short arm suspension is a compromise. maybe im no professional engineer, but i'll eat my shorts if you see any other major manufacturers goto a short arm design when they dont have to. it just makes your instant center vary too much, not to mention track width.
You know if they just refined the XXX-S it would makes sense. You could end up with a car that is not as competive and a bunched disatisfied factory drivers.
Than you copy a aftermarket graphite chassis company and say the car is great. Wait....... thats a tc4
10-04-2005, 11:19 PM
#8124
Yeah those 1/8th cars are really slow so the fogies with no talent and worn out reflexes can drive them easier
OOH, harsh, probably a bit close to the mark for some people 
You know if they just refined the XXX-S it would makes sense. You could end up with a car that is not as competive and a bunched disatisfied factory drivers. Than you copy a aftermarket graphite chassis company and say the car is great. Wait....... thats a tc4
10-05-2005, 07:02 AM
#8125
Huskerfreak, LOL.
I would think anyone with a couple sets of the current arms would like to have a set of Bk brackets, from Pooky, etc.
Unstable, I do actually see quite a bit of old men racing 1/8th on road, I even paint alot of their bodies for them!...heh heh
floodo1, mostly true, but the only CG compromise i see in the JRX-S is the large diff pulleys, which correspond to the larger drive pulleys for proper geraing. This adds up to lower drivetrain resistance, so may be a valid compromise?
...........All this on road talk makes me wish I was racing on road nats an hour and a half from my house...Work, Work, Work..Jim
I would think anyone with a couple sets of the current arms would like to have a set of Bk brackets, from Pooky, etc.
Unstable, I do actually see quite a bit of old men racing 1/8th on road, I even paint alot of their bodies for them!...heh heh
floodo1, mostly true, but the only CG compromise i see in the JRX-S is the large diff pulleys, which correspond to the larger drive pulleys for proper geraing. This adds up to lower drivetrain resistance, so may be a valid compromise?
...........All this on road talk makes me wish I was racing on road nats an hour and a half from my house...Work, Work, Work..Jim
10-05-2005, 07:31 AM
#8127
Originally Posted by huskerfreak
Xray has gone to a shorter a-arm design.
You know if they just refined the XXX-S it would makes sense. You could end up with a car that is not as competive and a bunched disatisfied factory drivers. Than you copy a aftermarket graphite chassis company and say the car is great. Wait....... thats a tc4
You know if they just refined the XXX-S it would makes sense. You could end up with a car that is not as competive and a bunched disatisfied factory drivers.
Than you copy a aftermarket graphite chassis company and say the car is great. Wait....... thats a tc4
10-05-2005, 08:53 AM
#8129
New BK Brackets
I was wondering if these new bars will include screws. Or if anybody knows what screw size I need because the holes on my arms are stripped. I know I am not using the proper screw.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help.
10-05-2005, 09:50 AM
#8130
Tech Adept
Originally Posted by Intelligentsia
I was wondering if these new bars will include screws. Or if anybody knows what screw size I need because the holes on my arms are stripped. I know I am not using the proper screw.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks for the help.
I assume that the bracket will have one threaded hole that mounts the shock and one unthreaded hole that a screw passes through to screw into the stock hole on the arm. I assume that the threaded hole will also fit a #4-40.
Ira