3Racing Sakura Zero S
#1636
Tech Master
Okay, so I'm going to ask several questions here and the answers are relatively important (yes I have read most of the thread, just double checking and making it easy to search for in the thread for myself). I am going to be testing one of these cars for our carpet track locally, to have another "entry level"/moderate price range chassis to get people racing this fall. In our area many people are not willing to drop $400 for a TC6 etc and then electronics etc etc, before they know they like it. From everything I have read, these kits are great kits and can compete with their Tc6 and Xray counterparts.
I will be testing the car as built from the kit to start (so I know what to expect and how it runs, when advising people on the kit). Then I will be getting parts that I hear are very helpful/necessary. Here are the things I know that I should try: 19t Pulley, aluminum spur gear adapter, and the vertical motor mount.
Some other parts I want to have for setups, are 1mil shims, different springs etc.
Our track is approximately 80x36, maybe slightly smaller, CRC carpet. The track will go from a "green" track to a track with a nice dark groove over the period of a few weeks nights or sometimes one weekend race day.
What springs would be good to use that 3racing offers for their mini shock? I will also be trying regular TC shocks with Tamiya shocks later, but want to try out what most people will have/ be able to get easily.
As far as Xi arms, these are supposedly harder and therefore break more easily? Is this correct?
I know there will be more, but for now this is a good start. I want to try to order a kit soon, build and start testing, so when carpet season rolls back around I'm ready to go. I'll probably be upgrading mine with carbon/graphite chassis' and others parts down the road, but I'll get that info down the road.
Thanks in advance.
I will be testing the car as built from the kit to start (so I know what to expect and how it runs, when advising people on the kit). Then I will be getting parts that I hear are very helpful/necessary. Here are the things I know that I should try: 19t Pulley, aluminum spur gear adapter, and the vertical motor mount.
Some other parts I want to have for setups, are 1mil shims, different springs etc.
Our track is approximately 80x36, maybe slightly smaller, CRC carpet. The track will go from a "green" track to a track with a nice dark groove over the period of a few weeks nights or sometimes one weekend race day.
What springs would be good to use that 3racing offers for their mini shock? I will also be trying regular TC shocks with Tamiya shocks later, but want to try out what most people will have/ be able to get easily.
As far as Xi arms, these are supposedly harder and therefore break more easily? Is this correct?
I know there will be more, but for now this is a good start. I want to try to order a kit soon, build and start testing, so when carpet season rolls back around I'm ready to go. I'll probably be upgrading mine with carbon/graphite chassis' and others parts down the road, but I'll get that info down the road.
Thanks in advance.
Some people think the xi arms give more traction. I do not believe they are necessary. I have only used the zero arms and have always been able to tune for a stable rear end. The hard arms seem more durable then the standard.
The kit set up works well as a very solid starting point. You will probably need to lower the rear roll center a little and put on slightly softer rear springs. If you have a lot of weight shift you will need to stiffen the front springs. Using a thick front diff oil and a thin rear oil will help too. I am using 80wt shock oil in the rear diff and it feels pretty good. This should go a long way to having a very raceable chassis.
#1637
Tech Elite
iTrader: (49)
Initially I'm going to test with a 17.5, but the idea for the class is to start with 21.5. Sounds like I'll need to just see what it does when I get it here. I will use the arms that come with the kit to test it, then maybe I'll try the Xi's to see what happens or if I notice a difference.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#1638
Tech Master
Initially I'm going to test with a 17.5, but the idea for the class is to start with 21.5. Sounds like I'll need to just see what it does when I get it here. I will use the arms that come with the kit to test it, then maybe I'll try the Xi's to see what happens or if I notice a difference.
Thanks.
Thanks.
#1639
Tech Adept
Aftermarket turnbuckles?
Hey there everyone,
Have been working on my Zero S build, and was wondering if anyone has replaced/substituted the stock turnbuckles with any other company's turnbuckles? I have searched the thread, and haven't found any definative answers. I just want to know if anyone has any suggestions? If not I guess I will go with the titanium ones.
BTW I want to thank you all. I look forward to reading this thread for any new info or suggestions. I can't wait to get this baby on the carpet track. Oh, also, do you all seal the chassis with a thin layer of ca glue or something like that around the edge? Have read in a few places that some people do, to help prevent the chassis from cracking during a severe hit.
Thanks again everyone
Have been working on my Zero S build, and was wondering if anyone has replaced/substituted the stock turnbuckles with any other company's turnbuckles? I have searched the thread, and haven't found any definative answers. I just want to know if anyone has any suggestions? If not I guess I will go with the titanium ones.
BTW I want to thank you all. I look forward to reading this thread for any new info or suggestions. I can't wait to get this baby on the carpet track. Oh, also, do you all seal the chassis with a thin layer of ca glue or something like that around the edge? Have read in a few places that some people do, to help prevent the chassis from cracking during a severe hit.
Thanks again everyone
#1640
Hey there everyone,
Have been working on my Zero S build, and was wondering if anyone has replaced/substituted the stock turnbuckles with any other company's turnbuckles? I have searched the thread, and haven't found any definative answers. I just want to know if anyone has any suggestions? If not I guess I will go with the titanium ones.
BTW I want to thank you all. I look forward to reading this thread for any new info or suggestions. I can't wait to get this baby on the carpet track. Oh, also, do you all seal the chassis with a thin layer of ca glue or something like that around the edge? Have read in a few places that some people do, to help prevent the chassis from cracking during a severe hit.
Thanks again everyone
Have been working on my Zero S build, and was wondering if anyone has replaced/substituted the stock turnbuckles with any other company's turnbuckles? I have searched the thread, and haven't found any definative answers. I just want to know if anyone has any suggestions? If not I guess I will go with the titanium ones.
BTW I want to thank you all. I look forward to reading this thread for any new info or suggestions. I can't wait to get this baby on the carpet track. Oh, also, do you all seal the chassis with a thin layer of ca glue or something like that around the edge? Have read in a few places that some people do, to help prevent the chassis from cracking during a severe hit.
Thanks again everyone
they work good i know the X-ray and tamiya ones will work to
#1641
Hey there everyone,
Have been working on my Zero S build, and was wondering if anyone has replaced/substituted the stock turnbuckles with any other company's turnbuckles? I have searched the thread, and haven't found any definative answers. I just want to know if anyone has any suggestions? If not I guess I will go with the titanium ones.
BTW I want to thank you all. I look forward to reading this thread for any new info or suggestions. I can't wait to get this baby on the carpet track. Oh, also, do you all seal the chassis with a thin layer of ca glue or something like that around the edge? Have read in a few places that some people do, to help prevent the chassis from cracking during a severe hit.
Thanks again everyone
Have been working on my Zero S build, and was wondering if anyone has replaced/substituted the stock turnbuckles with any other company's turnbuckles? I have searched the thread, and haven't found any definative answers. I just want to know if anyone has any suggestions? If not I guess I will go with the titanium ones.
BTW I want to thank you all. I look forward to reading this thread for any new info or suggestions. I can't wait to get this baby on the carpet track. Oh, also, do you all seal the chassis with a thin layer of ca glue or something like that around the edge? Have read in a few places that some people do, to help prevent the chassis from cracking during a severe hit.
Thanks again everyone
#1642
Not sure how that compares to other brands.
#1643
Originally Posted by rm25x
They are rated 4.25, 4.50, 4.75, up to 6.50
Not sure how that compares to other brands.
Not sure how that compares to other brands.
I was running 5.75 and 6.0, which I replaced with Gold and silver. Which means 5.75 was about 19lb/in and 6.0 was 16.9lb/in. The testing data started the 6.5 (softest) at about 19lb/in. I have no means of testing it properly, I just simply placed the springs end to end and squashed them. Watching how they compared and felt when pressed. I also haven't had a chance to test that on track yet.
To be honest, just buy the box of springs and tune from there. The kit has 5.5 all round.
#1645
Tech Regular
#1648
Tech Rookie
what the best gear size setup Spur & Pinion . for a Hobbywing Xrun 21.5 Just stock system.
I want it fast as possible without cooking the motor.
I want it fast as possible without cooking the motor.
#1649
Tech Master
I'm running a revtech 21.5 with a dual cooling fan on a 88 spur and a 46 pinion and my temps are 140-160 after 8 minutes. The track you are on will also have a lot to do with gearing. If it is long and flowing you could probably use a larger pinion. We are tight and technical at our track. Spend some time freeing up the drive train and use a good oil in the bearings. Less resistance means lower temps.