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Originally Posted by RussF
(Post 10435230)
I bought a used TC6 and was going through it to make sure how it was built. Its seems that for the most part the kit instructions were followed. Since I've not ever raced a TC6 I thought I would put on the stock kit setup in the back of the manual. The setup on the car was already pretty close. I did have a couple questions though.
1. On the Suspension Geometry section it calls for "Silver + 0" on the front outer ball & shims. What is "Silver"? Does it come in the kit? 2. On the Alignment section it calls for the Steering Link to be "2B". Is "B" the outer bumpsteer location? Whats is the "2", the pivot point? Car will be run on Carpet with Rubber Tires and 17.5 blinky class. Thanks for any help. Silver is the ball stud........it means the long neck ball stud. Black would mean the short neck ball stud. 2-B means the outer location on the steering knuckle and the steering post is in the rear hole in the chassis/top deck |
Originally Posted by BlackStarRacing
(Post 10435073)
ok so ill look at the TA site for the spool!
May i ask you if you have any setup sheets? or better yet what kind of fluid set ups are you running? diffs shocks Thanks for all the input! (I'm sure its been mentioned just too many pages lol) |
Originally Posted by Bappe
(Post 10435349)
spring rates:
Yokomo Spring Rating [lb/in] Orange 18.87 Green 16.06 Pink 14.93 Yellow 14.71 White 12.94 Blue 12.12 Rayspeed Spring Rating [lb/in] Gray 19.90 Red 18.26 White 17.17 Yellow 14.87 Blue 14.29 Green 13.20 Associated Spring Rating [lb/in] White 40.00 Yellow 31.91 Purple 30.30 Copper 23.26 Red 23.08 Gold 18.35 Blue 16.53 Silver 13.89 Green 11.43 Tamiya Spring Rating [lb/in] Purple 22.72 Gray 20.91 White Short 17.24 Blue Short 15.27 White 14.82 Blue 14.08 Yellow 13.33 Red Short 13.24 Yellow Short 12.90 Red 11.86 3Racing Spring Rating [lb/in] 4.25T 35.8 4.50T 31.7 4.75T 29.2 5.00T 26.2 5.25T 24.9 5.50T 22.9 5.75T 21.2 6.00T 20.0 6.50T 17.9 Hpi Spring Rating (lb/in) Silver 08.60 Gold 11.20 Orange 12.00 Yellow 12.70 Red 13.30 Green 13.80 Blue 14.00 Pink 14.70 Xray Spring Rating (lb/in) 2.2 12.56 2.4 13.70 2.6 14.85 2.8 15.99 3.0 17.13 3.2 18.27 3.4 19.41 Yokomo: Black - 258 gF/mm -- 14.45 Blue - 264 gF/mm -- 14.78 Yellow - 280 gF/mm -- 15.68 Pink - 290 gF/mm -- 16.24 Green - 303 gF/mm -- 16.97 Orange - 330 gF/mm-- 18.48 HPI: Blue - 273 gF/mm -- 15.29 Silver - 302 gF/mm -- 16.91 Pink - 320 gF/mm -- 17.92 Gold - 340 gF/mm -- 19.04 White - 363 gF/mm -- 20.33 Yellow - 388 gF/mm -- 21.73 Red - 400 gF/mm -- 22.40 Hope this helps |
Originally Posted by Steve Weiss
(Post 10435817)
I can't speak for all of these rates... most look "right" to me... but I believe the Yokomo and HPI rates are off... if you convert published rates to lbs/inch you get:
Yokomo: Black - 258 gF/mm -- 14.45 Blue - 264 gF/mm -- 14.78 Yellow - 280 gF/mm -- 15.68 Pink - 290 gF/mm -- 16.24 Green - 303 gF/mm -- 16.97 Orange - 330 gF/mm-- 18.48 HPI: Blue - 273 gF/mm -- 15.29 Silver - 302 gF/mm -- 16.91 Pink - 320 gF/mm -- 17.92 Gold - 340 gF/mm -- 19.04 White - 363 gF/mm -- 20.33 Yellow - 388 gF/mm -- 21.73 Red - 400 gF/mm -- 22.40 Hope this helps HPI Pink - 272 g/mm = 15.2 lb/in HPI Blue - 264 g/mm = 14.8 lb/in HPI Red - 238 g/mm = 13.3 lb/in HPI Orange - 216 g/mm = 12.1 lb/in The g/mm listing on Tower's site may be wrong, but here's the math for those curious. 454 grams/1 lb, 25.4 mm/ 1 inch (272g/1mm) x (1lb/454g) x (25.4mm/1ft), units cancel leaving you 15.217 lb/in......... Essentially, if the rating is X g/1mm, multiply the value by .05595, which will give you the lb rating (per 1 unit of measure). Edit: Apparently HPI makes quite the variety of springs! |
Just got my car today...
i must say I'm very impressed feels so solid!
Here are a list of things including and on the car, tell me what you think I'm missing? Also what are some of the surplus items i should have on deck? Front slipper build with white nut. Smooth Rear ball diff with carbide balls. PDBillet Dial-A-Grips on all 4 corners. (0's in rear and 2's front) Reflex pistons and bladders in all 4 shocks. Freshly rebuilt with AE 40 front and 30 rear. (Shock spring retainers marked for easy setup.) Kimbrough 96t spur. Fresh bearings. Car is built with 4* front caster and 0* rear. Both black sway bars and 1 gold included with all 3 sizes of plastic clamps. Front belt is a Tamiya and is 1 month old. Rear is brand new. Only ran on carpet so chassis is in good condition. Will throw in 5 used sweep 30 tires. Brand new manual. 2 droop gauges. (car is set at 6 front and 5 rear.) new set of servo horns, 2 full sets of arm carriers with alum inserts. Thanks Daryl |
Originally Posted by cwoods34
(Post 10435890)
I bought 4 pairs of HPI springs from Towerhobbies... according to them...
HPI Pink - 272 g/mm = 15.2 lb/in HPI Blue - 264 g/mm = 14.8 lb/in HPI Red - 238 g/mm = 13.3 lb/in HPI Orange - 216 g/mm = 12.1 lb/in The g/mm listing on Tower's site may be wrong, but here's the math for those curious. 454 grams/1 lb, 25.4 mm/ 1 inch (272g/1mm) x (1lb/454g) x (25.4mm/1ft), units cancel leaving you 15.217 lb/in......... Essentially, if the rating is X g/1mm, multiply the value by .05595, which will give you the lb rating (per 1 unit of measure). Edit: Apparently HPI makes quite the variety of springs! http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachme...g-rates-v3.pdf |
Originally Posted by Steve Weiss
(Post 10435817)
I can't speak for all of these rates... most look "right" to me... but I believe the Yokomo and HPI rates are off... if you convert published rates to lbs/inch you get:
Yokomo: Black - 258 gF/mm -- 14.45 Blue - 264 gF/mm -- 14.78 Yellow - 280 gF/mm -- 15.68 Pink - 290 gF/mm -- 16.24 Green - 303 gF/mm -- 16.97 Orange - 330 gF/mm-- 18.48 HPI: Blue - 273 gF/mm -- 15.29 Silver - 302 gF/mm -- 16.91 Pink - 320 gF/mm -- 17.92 Gold - 340 gF/mm -- 19.04 White - 363 gF/mm -- 20.33 Yellow - 388 gF/mm -- 21.73 Red - 400 gF/mm -- 22.40 Hope this helps |
Where are all the spare parts?????? !!!!!!!!
All the spare parts got pushed back again??!!! WTH?
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The fact that important spares such as arms, steering blocks, hubs etc for the 6.1 are out of stock is the main reason that is holding me back from grabbing a new TC6.1 kit.
I assume the reason for the delay could be a revision of the material used in these parts to rectify the excessive play people are experiencing in some suspension pieces ? |
Double post. See below.
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I agree. I also don't like the fact that some major parts are not in stock. I do have a 6.1 and 6, but some weeks ago I broke my spool and still no parts in stock. I took my 6 again, just so that I could drive at all. Come on Associated, fix it!
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Originally Posted by gregsbox
(Post 10370809)
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Originally Posted by daleburr
(Post 10438414)
Was just going to post the exact same thing. The rates for the springs actually used, which are the Yokomo Pro springs (white with a blob of coloured paint) and the HPI Pro4 springs (black with a blob of coloured paint), are as quoted by Steve. There are a lot of incorrect rates being quoted so be careful which ones you believe!
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Tweaking!
i have a slight rock on the passenger side front and the drivers side rear, I'm assuming its not squared! what screws would i adjust to straighten and flatten the chassis?
Thanks Daryl |
Originally Posted by BlackStarRacing
(Post 10438873)
i have a slight rock on the passenger side front and the drivers side rear, I'm assuming its not squared! what screws would i adjust to straighten and flatten the chassis?
Thanks Daryl |
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