USGT
This is getting outta control... Do all things lead to an ugly wedge?!
HARD PASS
https://www.redrc.net/2021/05/xtreme...y/#more-199360
HARD PASS
https://www.redrc.net/2021/05/xtreme...y/#more-199360
ETC has already banned it from competition under their umbrella.
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I've not had a look at the rules in a while, but FWD certainly used to be allowed, and with no minimum weight at that. I've only ever seen a couple guys try it. I considered the T4F but it came out right as the local track shut down.
Example: Protoform Europa 1565 Is not on the USGT list. Also the Bitty HC-F isn't on the approved list.
A Body does not have to be on "the list" to be approved...
"Body Specifications: Refer to body list for currently available/approved bodies. FWD MUST use FWD bodies."
"Scale realism consideration: Bodies intended for the USGT class should conform as closely as possible to the full scale car it represents."
"Body approval is a subjective process"
"DISCONTINUED BODIES: Discontinued unlisted bodies will be added as the USVTA sees fit to add them in based on the spirit of the class. Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you want to deviate from the Body list for local racing DISCONTINUED BODIES general guidelines: *Any 190mm or 200mm body appropriate for this class. *Body can be any body that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list."
Up until recently, all the FWD bodies have fallen within these guidelines, without ALL being on "the list"....
"Body Specifications: Refer to body list for currently available/approved bodies. FWD MUST use FWD bodies."
"Scale realism consideration: Bodies intended for the USGT class should conform as closely as possible to the full scale car it represents."
"Body approval is a subjective process"
"DISCONTINUED BODIES: Discontinued unlisted bodies will be added as the USVTA sees fit to add them in based on the spirit of the class. Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you want to deviate from the Body list for local racing DISCONTINUED BODIES general guidelines: *Any 190mm or 200mm body appropriate for this class. *Body can be any body that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list."
Up until recently, all the FWD bodies have fallen within these guidelines, without ALL being on "the list"....
A Body does not have to be on "the list" to be approved...
"Body Specifications: Refer to body list for currently available/approved bodies. FWD MUST use FWD bodies."
"Scale realism consideration: Bodies intended for the USGT class should conform as closely as possible to the full scale car it represents."
"Body approval is a subjective process"
"DISCONTINUED BODIES: Discontinued unlisted bodies will be added as the USVTA sees fit to add them in based on the spirit of the class. Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you want to deviate from the Body list for local racing DISCONTINUED BODIES general guidelines: *Any 190mm or 200mm body appropriate for this class. *Body can be any body that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list."
Up until recently, all the FWD bodies have fallen within these guidelines, without ALL being on "the list"....
"Body Specifications: Refer to body list for currently available/approved bodies. FWD MUST use FWD bodies."
"Scale realism consideration: Bodies intended for the USGT class should conform as closely as possible to the full scale car it represents."
"Body approval is a subjective process"
"DISCONTINUED BODIES: Discontinued unlisted bodies will be added as the USVTA sees fit to add them in based on the spirit of the class. Your Local track can always make adjustments to this rule...Please use the following if you want to deviate from the Body list for local racing DISCONTINUED BODIES general guidelines: *Any 190mm or 200mm body appropriate for this class. *Body can be any body that is NOT or HAS NOT BEEN on the ROAR T2 body list."
Up until recently, all the FWD bodies have fallen within these guidelines, without ALL being on "the list"....
Please use the following if you want to deviate from the Body list for local racing
90% of the tracks use modified Roar rules anyway. Roar never originally outlined rules for brushless classes to begin with let alone body approvals. The way I see USGT is like trying to saddle train a wild horse. They have let so much stuff go that it will be damn near impossible to real it back in. The USGT spec motor is probably the best idea for the class but locally and online ive heard whining of it’s slower than my certified this of I dont want to buy another motor that.....we as racers SUCK. We a decision is made for us we will bitch and complain and then if no decision is made and it’s left to interpretation (sort of like now) we complain of yester year. The top guys locally have been fast with the spec motor and whatever “Roar leagl”🤦🏽♂️ Motor they decide to run. USGT is broken down into so many levels in my area that I’m almost tempted to push for a 6ft and over class.....hell everything else has a class🤣🤣🤣🤣. I just want to have fun in the class and work on driving if the playing field is level because the rules are CLEARLY outlined and followed. If you’re wondering what area I’m referring to it’s Northern California.
Last edited by STLNLST; 05-28-2021 at 03:18 PM.
90% of the tracks us modified Roar rules anyway. Roar never originally outlined rules for brushless classes to begin with let alone body approvals. The way I see USGT is like trying to saddle train a wild horse. They have let so much stuff go that it will be damn near impossible to real it back in. The USGT spec motor is probably the best idea for the class but locally and online ive heard whining of it’s slower than my certified this of I dont want to buy another motor that.....we as racers SUCK. We a decision is made for us we will bitch and complain and then if no decision is made and it’s left to interpretation (sort of like now) we complain of yester year. The top guys locally have been fast with the spec motor and whatever “Roar leagl”🤦🏽♂️ Motor they decide to run. USGT is broken down into so many levels in my area that I’m almost tempted to push for a 6ft and over class.....hell everything else has a class🤣🤣🤣🤣. I just want to have fun in the class and work on driving if the playing field is level because the rules are CLEARLY outlined and followed. If you’re wondering what area I’m referring to it’s Northern California.
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That body would never make it.
The usgt body rules have been changed. After seeing some recent trends, i wanted to let everyone know there won't be much tolerance for stuff like the sherock
http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rule...es5-9-2021.pdf
The usgt body rules have been changed. After seeing some recent trends, i wanted to let everyone know there won't be much tolerance for stuff like the sherock
http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rule...es5-9-2021.pdf
STLNLST: I'd be down for that 6ft and over class with you 
to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies?
We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule.
That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset

to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies?
We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule.
That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset
yet all track seem to follow Roar based rules for equipment....batteries, motors....etc. only one track here in Northern California embraced the actual USGT rules with the spec motor and it didn’t even last a whole season as you have R1 home track and Team Powers home track in surrounding areas.
STLNLST: I'd be down for that 6ft and over class with you 
to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies?
We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule.
That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset

to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies?
We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule.
That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset
when are you coming out of retirement? F1 has been pretty killer lately. USGT has been a blast as well.
That body would never make it.
The usgt body rules have been changed. After seeing some recent trends, i wanted to let everyone know there won't be much tolerance for stuff like the sherock
http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rule...es5-9-2021.pdf
The usgt body rules have been changed. After seeing some recent trends, i wanted to let everyone know there won't be much tolerance for stuff like the sherock
http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rule...es5-9-2021.pdf
I sincerely say ThankYou.
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STLNLST: I'd be down for that 6ft and over class with you 
to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies?
We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule.
That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset

to me the spec motor is dumb, ROAR already has extreme motor testing rules, why create more monopolies?
We went to the 'all same tested motor' for an entire series, guess what: the same guys finished in the same order they did before the enforced motor rule.
That said I do wish we had more of a four door GT body oriented class/ruleset





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