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Old 10-01-2020 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 3TurnRacing
...still not bad compare to say a XrayT4F’21 at $459.00ish + shipping
agreed, but it will cost around 180 on the US market
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Old 10-01-2020 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by moparSRT
$120 + $50 shipping = $170
I bought inexpensive / budget kits before.......I'll never make that mistake again.
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Old 10-01-2020 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by simple
I bought inexpensive / budget kits before.......I'll never make that mistake again.
If it gets people started. I’m all for it. I’ve got one kit( M chassis) from them. No complaints, other then no class for it.
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Old 10-01-2020 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by simple
I bought inexpensive / budget kits before.......I'll never make that mistake again.
Not sure what mistake you made, but I have been racing budget kits sense 2014 and never looked back.
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Old 10-01-2020 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by moparSRT
Not sure what mistake you made, but I have been racing budget kits sense 2014 and never looked back.
I use both low budget and high end. I’m a bit more cautious racing my 4x or Awesomatix vs my budget car. Especially when there a solid wall as a barrier
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Old 10-02-2020 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by moparSRT
Not sure what mistake you made, but I have been racing budget kits sense 2014 and never looked back.
Poor machining, fit issues, inexpensive(soft or fragile) material, too much flex in the wrong places, soft material fasteners, missing parts from new kits, general parts supply from distributors, long shipping times from overseas, no local tech support, ambiguous setups for specialized track locations, infrequent updates and improvements.
This wasn't ALWAYS the case, but more often than not. I like wrenching, but not on the same things over and over.

I don't want to single any one manufacturer out, but for me, it gets the "budget" price for "budget" reasons.
No Thank You.
I take time now to decide what I spend my money on, and the smile on my face is generally proportional at the end of the day.
If budget kits are for you, bravo!

Last word, buyer beware.

....All that being said....I firmly believe that USGT, as well as VTA, were perfect classes for "budget" chassis to be competitive.
They belong on the track with everything else, and are excellent for getting new racers into the groove without heavy cost.
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Old 10-02-2020 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by simple
Poor machining, fit issues, inexpensive(soft or fragile) material, too much flex in the wrong places, soft material fasteners, missing parts from new kits, general parts supply from distributors, long shipping times from overseas, no local tech support, ambiguous setups for specialized track locations, infrequent updates and improvements.
This wasn't ALWAYS the case, but more often than not. I like wrenching, but not on the same things over and over.

I don't want to single any one manufacturer out, but for me, it gets the "budget" price for "budget" reasons.
No Thank You.
I take time now to decide what I spend my money on, and the smile on my face is generally proportional at the end of the day.
If budget kits are for you, bravo!

Last word, buyer beware.

....All that being said....I firmly believe that USGT, as well as VTA, were perfect classes for "budget" chassis to be competitive.
They belong on the track with everything else, and are excellent for getting new racers into the groove without heavy cost.


I don't agree with some of things you said about budget kits. One of things I have found about the more expensive kits is that parts are very expensive on some of the brands. This makes them more expensive to run.
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Old 10-02-2020 | 10:57 AM
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A general question on the new USGT spec motor: Is a motor fan necessary? Fixed timing should run cooler, or is everyone hanging big pinions on them to get speed? Trying to decide where to mount electronics in a new car ...
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Old 10-02-2020 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Marcy
A general question on the new USGT spec motor: Is a motor fan necessary? Fixed timing should run cooler, or is everyone hanging big pinions on them to get speed? Trying to decide where to mount electronics in a new car ...
I'm using a hobbywing fan, it's only 8.5g so its a benefit for the amount of heat generated. At least it reduces fade during the 5th or 6th minute of running.
My fdr is 4.4, but will be going to 4.2 soon.
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Old 10-02-2020 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by simple
Poor machining, fit issues, inexpensive(soft or fragile) material, too much flex in the wrong places, soft material fasteners, missing parts from new kits, general parts supply from distributors, long shipping times from overseas, no local tech support, ambiguous setups for specialized track locations, infrequent updates and improvements.
This wasn't ALWAYS the case, but more often than not. I like wrenching, but not on the same things over and over.

I don't want to single any one manufacturer out, but for me, it gets the "budget" price for "budget" reasons.
No Thank You.
I take time now to decide what I spend my money on, and the smile on my face is generally proportional at the end of the day.
If budget kits are for you, bravo!

Last word, buyer beware.

....All that being said....I firmly believe that USGT, as well as VTA, were perfect classes for "budget" chassis to be competitive.
They belong on the track with everything else, and are excellent for getting new racers into the groove without heavy cost.
Guess all that depends on the brand of the budget kits, have been racing 3racing kits for the last 6 years and have not come across any of those issues, recently trying out xpress and again no issues ...
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Old 10-02-2020 | 03:45 PM
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you can check out the video for the quality control of this kit, not perfect, but still pretty good for a entrée level.

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Old 10-02-2020 | 08:48 PM
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Good stuff rite there!!
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Old 10-03-2020 | 06:55 AM
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A lot just depends on how deep you want or are able to get into your pockets. The Budget Kits are perfect for the amount they cost and what there are intended for. I've seen the 3Racing 4wd Chassis driven in Amains and do extremely well, especially for running on Black Carpet.
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Old 10-03-2020 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Marcy
A general question on the new USGT spec motor: Is a motor fan necessary? Fixed timing should run cooler, or is everyone hanging big pinions on them to get speed? Trying to decide where to mount electronics in a new car ...
Yes, if you are running indoor and want your motor to last, then you need a fan. I had a fan die in a 5 minute qualifier and my temp came off at 178f. Put a new fan on and it came off and 132f. As far as weight goes, for most kits, you have to add weight to get to the minimum spec anyway, so the fan just reduces the amount of ballast you have to add.
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Old 10-05-2020 | 06:28 PM
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Some new bodies:
SabulaTech 94 Calibra (190mm)


SabulaTech '94 Camaro (200mm)



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http://www.usvintagetransam.com/rule...s10-5-2020.pdf
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