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Old 08-21-2005 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by CarlosG.
What type of fluid do you suggest to run in the tubes for the Hyperform car. I just placed my order for a kit. My curiousity about the car is kicking in. So I had to get one.
I use Losi Light, Standard, and Heavy fluid in my tubes (these have been discontinued) there are times when I will use a little thicker "home made" mix. Try 5000, 7000, and 10000 silicone shock oil, Picco007 and I feel that they are very similar to the Losi Hydra Fluid. The Corally lubes are too thick, I haven't tried the CRC stuff yet. Let me know if you need anymore help.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 09:22 AM
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I have the crc light which came with my t-fource kit, i think it is much too light, is hardly slows the thing down at all. right now I'm using 10,000 which feels slightly heavier than losi hydra heavy. when i go on the fug I'll be using 50,000. this helps the car rotate in the corners better. I would like to pick up some 7,000 but i don't know that I would ever go lighter than that.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 09:29 AM
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I saw the Crimson Eagle take flight last night...Chris was gone from the very get go!

Now, he just needs to keep his TC upright...
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Old 08-21-2005 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by P2
I use Losi Light, Standard, and Heavy fluid in my tubes (these have been discontinued) there are times when I will use a little thicker "home made" mix. Try 5000, 7000, and 10000 silicone shock oil, Picco007 and I feel that they are very similar to the Losi Hydra Fluid. The Corally lubes are too thick, I haven't tried the CRC stuff yet. Let me know if you need anymore help.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by AdrianM
The Trinity Website isn't clear on the part numbers so I read the correct #'s off some header cards and edited my post below.

About Damper Grease:

You can go too heavy. I don't know any top Mod drivers that run anything a thick As Trinity Purple stuff anywhere on thier cars at 99% of the tracks.

McMahon is one of the fastest 1/12th drivers on carpet and he always runs red stuff in his damper tubes everywhere he goes.

Remember...if you car is sliding anywhere you are scrubbing speed. Get your car stuck down so it just about traction rolls then drive it smooth so it wont traction roll. Some guys think making your car free (not so stuck) makes you fast. This is not the case...you have to drive a stuck car smoothly so you don't scrub speed to be fast.
Not having done this in about 5 years, is there any feel I should want the car to have when it's in my hands?
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Old 08-21-2005 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by P2
I use Losi Light, Standard, and Heavy fluid in my tubes (these have been discontinued) there are times when I will use a little thicker "home made" mix. Try 5000, 7000, and 10000 silicone shock oil, Picco007 and I feel that they are very similar to the Losi Hydra Fluid. The Corally lubes are too thick, I haven't tried the CRC stuff yet. Let me know if you need anymore help.
Paul

Paul what company makes weighted shock oil in those weights? Is it OFNA or Mugen?
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Old 08-21-2005 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy Caster
Not having done this in about 5 years, is there any feel I should want the car to have when it's in my hands?

To be honest with you Randy, I don't think I could explain what it should feel like. But I do know that when I was running my 12l4, it worked best when there was hardly anything in between the damper disc's. Now I run my rug rat with tubes and it feels the same when I run light or standard hydradrive fluid. We run on asphalt only so I'm just giving you my take on things.

A friend of mine on carpet uses heavy hydradrive fluid to start out with in carpet but ends up using 30k to 50k in his tubes (calandra tubes). Hope this helps......

I think it also depends on the types of tubes you have. Or if you have discs then they guys running either the BMI or 12l4 cars would probably be able to give you some pointers on what it should feels like.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CarlosG.
Paul what company makes weighted shock oil in those weights? Is it OFNA or Mugen?

Carlos, it is ofna and mugen who make silicon diff lube in those weights.....I have enough of the ofna diff lubes to let you try this weekend.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 05:48 PM
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I have GS silicone lubes in those weights and more, made for 1/8th scale buggy differentials. They should be relatively easy to find. I believe OFNA makes them, too.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 06:54 PM
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I have tried the mugens 600 weight shock oil and the 10,000 weight diff lube. The 600 felt like I had nothing on my dampner disks, but the 10,000 felt just abit to heavy like it was honey.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CarlosG.
I have tried the mugens 600 weight shock oil and the 10,000 weight diff lube. The 600 felt like I had nothing on my dampner disks, but the 10,000 felt just abit to heavy like it was honey.

The mugen 600 shock oil is too light. You need silcon diff lube. They come in heavier wieghts.....3k, 5k, 7k, and 10k and so on.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 08:59 PM
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I was just trying out the 600.
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Old 08-21-2005 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Randy Caster
Not having done this in about 5 years, is there any feel I should want the car to have when it's in my hands?
Randy and Carlos,
First off the rear pod should be smooth, with no binding in any direction.
As for which lube to use, the only way to tell is by how the car reacts on the track. In general thicker lube will make the car rotate faster in the 180* turns, thinner lube will slow this reaction down and will make the car easier to drive in the chicanes.

If your car is pushing off power going into a corner, use thicker lube.
If your car is over steering, hard to drive, in the chicanes, use thinner lube.

You have to find a happy medium that works for all areas of the track for that day. At this years USPCC I started out with Losi Heavy, then med, to light at the end of the day due to the track changing. You just have to experiment to see what lube suites your driving style and type of disk/tubes your car has.
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Old 08-22-2005 | 03:23 AM
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Is there any use for Corally damper syrup on an L4?
I now run red under the rear pod top plate and blue on the top. The car feels good, but there's always room for improvement.
However, I found on my 10th pancar that uses tubes, that even the lightest Corally syrup is too thick for running on asphalt. It takes away all steering. I now use Losi heavy hudra fluid in it. I took 0.3 seconds of my best lap ever with that new setup!
Any thoughts from the experts?
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Old 08-22-2005 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro ten Holland
Is there any use for Corally damper syrup on an L4?
I now run red under the rear pod top plate and blue on the top. The car feels good, but there's always room for improvement.
However, I found on my 10th pancar that uses tubes, that even the lightest Corally syrup is too thick for running on asphalt. It takes away all steering. I now use Losi heavy hudra fluid in it. I took 0.3 seconds of my best lap ever with that new setup!
Any thoughts from the experts?

I'm not an expert by any means but using the corally stuff for your tubes on asphalt is too heavy we think (P2 and myself). I use a trinity white stuff for my 12l4 damper plates since we run on asphalt. P2 introduced me to the losi Hydradrive lubes a while back and I love them but I will probably run out soon and they are not made anymore so I am looking into other lubes to use in my tubes.....hope this helps.
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