2 stage tires or "wraps" are about half the weight of a reg. tire... give or take a few grams. Less rotating mass...

With 2 stage tires you can drive with larger diameter tires and still have them light in weight (that's why we use the smallest diameter as possible, to keep the weight down).
And I think with a harder compound piece under the "top" compound, the tires will be stiffer and don't chunk as easy.

2-Stage Tires In Stock

Superior Hobbies has the WRAP Tires available for 12th scale. There is only one compound that we know of and it is in stock for immediate shipping.

407.834.9299

Just to let everyone know... JACO Racing Products, Inc. filed for a US patent on the "2-stage tire" on November 29, 2004. Anyone attempting to duplicate this technology ( as it sounds like on this thread) will be infringing on our patent.

Oh boy here we go. Patent 2 foam strips glued together and they think they were the inventers. Every body in this hobby has heared and probably seen or used 2 stage foam inserts, so why would this be any different?
Also foam tires have been out since the 70's in split compounds! Legally anyone can make these tires.
Its Like pizza hut sueing a buddy of mine for the stuff crust pizza. He's been selling it at his pizzeria for 10 years before they did. And its been done in Italy since forever! Get for real!

I cant believe this! :rolleyes:

I guess we will see.

Jack? Ok you applied for the patent, but was it issued to you as having sole rights. Thats like applying for a patent on the rubber tire.

This would be funny to see TRC sueing Jaco , Jaco sueing TM, and cant leave out Parma and BSR for making Pinks and purples. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

speedxl - Seems you always know so much. The patent, I believe is strictly in reguards to foam tires (not off-road) and their exact construction. Legally, anyone can't make these tires as JACO developed (that's right - JACO was the inventor in this construction process) them back in the mid 90's but technology didn't allow for production (adhesives and machinery to produce the tires at an economical price). Now, the technology is there and JACO is producing the tire and has the patent.

Orion patented an electric motor concept that was around from the late 60's so don't say it can't or hasn't been done.

Guys we dont like this kind of talk on the 12 scale thred so take some where else please.

You might not want to belittle our achievement. We have worked for a number of years developing this tire and have invested a lot of money. We are simply protecting our interests. If it is such a trivial accomplishment, perhaps the next time you get lapped by someone running these tires you will regret making these comments.

WOW!!

Soooo, Where can one find these superior tires? Horizon, Great Planes??

Thanks.

anyone?
also i just found some pic of Hara's 12, but i don't see anything is parallel to whatever... so why is it?

http://www.hpiracing.co.jp/contents/...12jpnat/02.jpg

Josh it not a big deal. I just find it humerous that were talking patents for a toy race car tire. I really dont care if someone copys anything I dont manufacture anything either. Its just like I said funny to here about this here. Plus I know your a respectable guy and I wont get into a battle of wits with you because ultimatly your the celebrity and I will be the bad guy for posting my opinion and probably get flamed for it because people here dont know how to understand its a view point and respect it. The outcome doesnt effect your pocket or mine. And I have nothing against Jaco its just funny how everything is resovled with law suits. I am not arguing with you I am just having a casual chat with you, we both have our view and I am sure we will respect them. :cool:

I am not putting your achievments down. As you read elswere its humerous to read a "patent" being applied to an rc car tire. I think you have good foam tire's but your rims need to be beefed up, the bearing hole wollows out to easy. I still use them . But If you think that your the only tire manufacture that makes a competitive tire then so be it. There's nothing wrong with parma,trc,tm, or bsr. That comment about being lapped and being sorry thats mute. I still run your tires as I wont take it personal and I am sure you like cash! :sneaky: :D

Josh or Jack,

What are the prices? Are they in stock anywhere? Can my local shop get them?