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AdrianM 07-20-2005 08:29 PM

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SpeedXL - Titan Tools. Available at your neighborhood Target

Still Bill 07-20-2005 08:33 PM

Those wrenches come in r/c sizes???

Carbuncle 07-20-2005 08:51 PM


Originally Posted by AdrianM
SpeedXL - Titan Tools. Available at your neighborhood Target

ROTFLMAO!

odpurple 07-20-2005 09:19 PM


Originally Posted by JRX-S Bill
What do you mean? I have been close to kilt by some nitro r/c cars. :smile:

that's cuz yer old guy shuffle is almost as slow as mine.

psbarger 07-20-2005 10:01 PM

Speaking of the Jaco 2 stage foams, I can't find any info on them anywhere. Does anyone have some part numbers? I'd like to try some of them.

Still Bill 07-20-2005 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by odpurple
that's cuz yer old guy shuffle is almost as slow as mine.

Mountain biking at 20 paces kiddo...

JayBee 07-20-2005 11:20 PM

I posted this in the for-sale forum too but I figured someone here might be interested as well. Sorry don't flame me :D ...

I didn't wanna have to do this but here goes...

I don't see any immediate need to keep this car being that I only know of two other guys in my area that run 12th's. This car has only seen 4 practice asphalt laps, and is in PRISTINE condition. If you want to get started in 12th-scale this is the car for you. It's coming with EVERYTHING except radio with Spektrum module.

Here's the rundown:
CRC Team Red T-Fource... $225
Futaba MC800C speedo... $150
AMB personal transponder... $90
Futaba S9602 servo... $50
Spektrum receiver... $70
Fantom Team Stock motor... $40
2-Yokomo HV3300 4-cell packs... $80
Protoform Speed 8 body... $15
CRC EXP Speed 8 body... $15
Kydex Bumper... $5
CRC Center Spring Set... $7
CRC Red Alum 10-deg upper arm mount... $13
CRC Red Alum 5-deg upper arm mount... $13
CRC Alum Servo mount... $13
CRC Alum washer-front ride height... $2
CRC Graphite Servo-saver brace... $3
CRC 3/8 x 4-40 Cap head screw... $2
CRC Square nuts for servo mounts... $1.50
IRS Ride height adjusters... $9.50
Team Associated VCS micro shock rebuild kit... $4
Team Associated Blue spring for VCS-micro shock... $2
Kimbrough 96t 64p Spur gear... $4
Jaco pink fronts... $15
Jaco pink rears... $12
Jaco purple fronts... $11
Everything from the CRC Speed 8 body is NIP...........

I believe that's all of it. That's a little over $800 worth of gear. It might be a bit steep for some but $500 in USD will suffice. If someone has a better offer, bring it. I do accept paypal and money orders. NO CHECKS!!
Anybody have a Hudy Lathe w/DIAMOND BIT and Much More motor cooler and KO VFS-1 PRO COMPETITION speedo or anything comparable, 'cause I am willing to hear SOME trades.
Thanks for your time ... -JB

Jack Rimer 07-21-2005 04:50 AM

Tireman- of couse they are not hard to make. You just buy one of ours and reverse engineer it. The whole point is that it is OUR idea and we have taken steps to protect it. You should receive a letter from our patent attorney outlining our position soon. From here on out we can keep it off the message boards and let our lawyers handle it.

speedxl 07-21-2005 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AdrianM
SpeedXL - Titan Tools. Available at your neighborhood Target

Adrian and carbuncle got yours right here! :sneaky:

Josh Cyrul 07-21-2005 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by tireman
Jack this is Tony from T.M. Please send us any pertinent info on your patent for 2-Stage tires.
We will review it and if we are infringing on your patent we will stop production on our DUAL LAYER tires. If your already have the patent
please include the number. If it is patent pending we will need what the patent was applied for.

Josh I dont know what you mean we didn't have the technology in the 90's
our DUAL LAYER tires are not that hard to make they are just time consuming
since you have to do everything twice. We made our first DUAL LAYER tires in about 2 and a half days.
at a cost of about $150

TM - They are not hard to make but they are hard to make work right, at an economical price and not fail as these are now made to withstand 165 degree track temps with a 5 1/2 lbs car going 70+mph. I'm not going to speak of the troubles we've had - you can learn them all on your own.

speedxl - All of Jaco's wheels are being done out of new material that will make them a lot better than what we've had the past few years. The 1/12 rims are beefed up around the bearing boss on both the front and rear rims and the rear rims should be more true and I think Jack said they were working on the fronts to get them more true as well.

Randy Caster 07-21-2005 11:58 AM

Hey Josh, where can I get a C12?

bshack 07-21-2005 01:35 PM

Hey Randy, get that Nitro car to Columbus this weekend..........

Sincerely........
Brad Hackett

speedxl 07-21-2005 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by Josh Cyrul
TM - They are not hard to make but they are hard to make work right, at an economical price and not fail as these are now made to withstand 165 degree track temps with a 5 1/2 lbs car going 70+mph. I'm not going to speak of the troubles we've had - you can learn them all on your own.

speedxl - All of Jaco's wheels are being done out of new material that will make them a lot better than what we've had the past few years. The 1/12 rims are beefed up around the bearing boss on both the front and rear rims and the rear rims should be more true and I think Jack said they were working on the fronts to get them more true as well.

Thats the one gripe most of probably have is the bearing boss. I am sure you encounterd going out on the track and not hit anything and come off the track with the bearing wobble.

I am curious as to why Jaco doesnt go to the flanged bearing set up. The flange actually supports the wheel under cornering forces.

Jack Rimer 07-21-2005 04:36 PM

Since we supply a number of OEM tires, the manufacturers can save money on kits by using unflanged bearings. We were asked to develop a wheel that utilized these bearings. I don't like them. They are very difficult to mold true.
We are currently redesigning or changing the material on every rim we make. As cars get faster, we need to have wheels that are sufficiently durable. Right now, I hear more complaints about our wheels' durability than anything. That is about to change.

speedxl 07-21-2005 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Jack Rimer
Since we supply a number of OEM tires, the manufacturers can save money on kits by using unflanged bearings. We were asked to develop a wheel that utilized these bearings. I don't like them. They are very difficult to mold true.
We are currently redesigning or changing the material on every rim we make. As cars get faster, we need to have wheels that are sufficiently durable. Right now, I hear more complaints about our wheels' durability than anything. That is about to change.

I hope! :rolleyes: because sometimes just side swiping the wall cracks the rear rim. Were talking a slight tap. Back in the late 80's and early 90's I worked at minitech a tire manufacture we had a wheel with a lip. Have you tried incorparating that into you wheel design. It would improve durabilaty and keep the tire from chunking!


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