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J.Gonzalez 04-04-2007 07:39 AM

I have tried to convince guys at my local track of the same thing. No believes me that it really not that much slower for club races. I noticed this at some of the tcs races I attended. I was suprised how well the cars work and handled with 540's

540 would be a great class for club racing.

Jamie

jdcarbon 04-04-2007 07:50 AM

New to RC12, got an RC12L3
 
So I've decided to get into carpet racing, and have an RC12L3 I picked up off ebay.

It has no electronics, just a roller. What sizes of motor/esc will work well and fit in an RC12L3? Also, does it need a micro servo?

I'm probably going to pick something up off ebay, but have no clue what to look for.

Thanks,
John

AdrianM 04-04-2007 07:53 AM

Here in FL we run 19T 1/12th because our outdoor tracks are pretty big. My local track is 150x50 with 10 foot lanes.

On these tracks 27T motors are pitifully slow and not at all exciting to run.

jdcarbon 04-04-2007 07:57 AM

I should have mentioned I'm completely new to electric, I run only nitro currently.

Is 19T/27T physically the same size? I see occasionally people/manufacturers say their motors will fit 1/18th or 1/10th, but haven't seen anything that says it will fit in 1/12th. Do they all use 540 size?

radio_car_racer 04-04-2007 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by protc3
any of you guys have a pic of a V-Dezign Carpet Ripper ´07? i saw it did will at the euros but have never seen it before.

info released very soon including photos




Hello guys,

Just to make it correct, even the V-Dezign Carpet Ripper may look similar to FF '07, they have something same kind of stuff but are still totally different cars built on different concept. I have known Jari since '95 as we are from the same club. We are in contact very often also nowadays, weekly or even more often. Both have own ideas on cars which have been done in a different way with different style and thinking but also something has been done together. I know FF'07 is a superb car as well as the Carpet Ripper Both have proved they are a winners.

I have been running with different V-Dezign protos now since last februari '06 and the final update kit will be out very soon.

Any info about the car will be available at my website soon @ www.v-dezign.net (car section is under constructuon and doesnt exist yet, will be there in these days).

I asked Andy Griffiths (worlds a finalist, euro champ, multiple euro a finalis) if he would be interested to try my car in october. Since that, Andy dominated the UK tracks race after race.

I and Andy Griffiths run the latest and the final version of car this winter with good success with some of the results in here:

Andy
-1st place in 10 out of 12 Nationals in UK in both 19t and mod.
-4th at the 2007 Euros

Vesa
- 2nd at Finnish Champs 2006 with proto car
- 1st in Rebellion Race in October in Finland
- A main at the Euros warmup and finished 7th
- 2nd at 2nd rnd of nationals in finland
- TQ'd with ~1,5 LAPS and took 1st place in every final at 3rd rnd of
nationals in finland ( all top drivers attended the race)
- 10th at the 2007 Euros

All who are interested about the car, can contact me thru my website or @ [email protected]

The kits should be available in may. The kit will include all graphite parts and alum motor pod. Photos will be available shortly. The car has got a lot of interest and already now it seems it will be the most popular car in Finland next season

BR,
Vesa

EricF 04-04-2007 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by jdcarbon
I should have mentioned I'm completely new to electric, I run only nitro currently.

Is 19T/27T physically the same size? I see occasionally people/manufacturers say their motors will fit 1/18th or 1/10th, but haven't seen anything that says it will fit in 1/12th. Do they all use 540 size?

All of the motors are the same size. except for brushless motors. 19t/ 27t refers to the number of times the wire is wraped around each pole of the motor.

I don't beleive that a 540 size motor will fit in a 1/18 scale vehicle.

E

CarlosG. 04-04-2007 08:08 AM

We are about to run 19 turn out here in 12th scale, since we have been running stock since the regionals. I wwould like to know how do I setup up C2 for a 12th scale (Brush and spring)?

Marcos.J 04-04-2007 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by CarlosG.
We are about to run 19 turn out here in 12th scale, since we have been running stock since the regionals. I wwould like to know how do I setup up C2 for a 12th scale (Brush and spring)?

F brush (maybe vertical cut) green and green spring

protc3 04-04-2007 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by CarlosG.
We are about to run 19 turn out here in 12th scale, since we have been running stock since the regionals. I wwould like to know how do I setup up C2 for a 12th scale (Brush and spring)?

you should try out a KD motor for 19 turn buddy.they are really quick compared to the C2.i usually ran the F brush like marcos stated with the C2 but now with the 4499 and red spring + and - for the KD.i gear it at a 88/30 or 31 depending on the track size with a 1.850 rear tire.the car was a little missile.this is for asphalt by the way right?

odpurple 04-04-2007 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by AdrianM
Here in FL we run 19T 1/12th because our outdoor tracks are pretty big. My local track is 150x50 with 10 foot lanes.

On these tracks 27T motors are pitifully slow and not at all exciting to run.

You are right there. The one large asphalt track we have is pretty lame with stock brushed motors :nod:

But the guy we are talking about here is having trouble controlling his car with a 19t, so even if he is running outdoors a slower motor will help him learn.
We have been discussing the idea of silver can or something similar here. We have a couple of small carpet tracks and since they have allowed 13.5 in stock, there is no entry level class anymore :cool:

acyrier 04-04-2007 10:10 AM

Were in the exact same boat in 12th. it has gained some popularity at our track. We've been debating about the silvercan motor as well. Should have plenty of power as far as a newbie and a 12th go. our track is only 36x60. In TC we have a novice and advanced class. No difference in the two...just skill level. Has worked out really well for us and were on the verge of doing the same thing in 12th, except as I said, the silver can for the beginner. As fun as it is to squeeze the trigger and the car rip down the straight through tthe corners, it's frustraiting the the newer guys to break parts and not finish a race.

James35 04-04-2007 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by EricF
All of the motors are the same size. except for brushless motors.
E

Actually, brushless is the same size as brushed. It's just that the brushless endbell is full diameter whereas brushed endbell is tapered. The overall diameter and length is the same with brushed and brushless.

EricF 04-04-2007 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by James35
Actually, brushless is the same size as brushed. It's just that the brushless endbell is full diameter whereas brushed endbell is tapered. The overall diameter and length is the same with brushed and brushless.

True.
E

linger 04-04-2007 10:57 AM

3 Attachment(s)
This should be an interesting experiment.
I wired up a 1 cell lipo pack. It weighs 142g compared to 265g for a 4 cell Nimh pack. The lipo pack is composed of a bunch of smaller cells all wired in parallel for a total of 5000mAh. Basically, it's the power of a 3 cell Nimh with the weight of a 2 cell Nimh. I encased the lipo pack with Team Associated chassis protection film to prevent denting this pack.
I'm just waiting for my Novak Servo regulator to arrive so I can attach a small lipo receiver pack.
I'll let you guys know how it runs.
Hey OD - you wanna be a guinea pig?

Marcos.J 04-04-2007 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by protc3
you should try out a KD motor for 19 turn buddy.they are really quick compared to the C2.i usually ran the F brush like marcos stated with the C2 but now with the 4499 and red spring + and - for the KD.i gear it at a 88/30 or 31 depending on the track size with a 1.850 rear tire.the car was a little missile.this is for asphalt by the way right?

no i know why your car is always FAST!!


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