Schumacher Corner
09-27-2004, 06:47 AM
#7291
What you're saying make perfect since. I think I'll set the camber links back where I had them to start and raise the rear RC. I didn't want to free it up too much because there are a few high speed ess's on the track that you coast through and the car was dialed through those sections. But there are a couple 180 switch backs that are off power. Those were where the car was fighting a little. I also think I'm a little too heavy on the dampening all around. I'm running 45 wt all around in Tamiya shocks with a #56 3 hole piston (all my pistons are drilled like that from running them on the Losi) I think this is too heavy so I'm also going to soften that up a little bit.
09-27-2004, 06:57 AM
#7292
jkerr0043- I'm running my shocks with the standard #58 that come with the Tamiya shocks but I also have an extra set that have #56 drilled pistons from my Losi days as well. Looks like I'll be testing everything under the sun on Friday. From what I hear that track is just like Speedworld so the set up that I'm starting with should work fine. What tire and insert have you been running and what were the track temps?
09-27-2004, 08:10 AM
#7293
Roll Centers
With the stock chassis we are running no front riser plate. We use 1mm or 1.5mm spacers from TakeOff. The lower you go the more steering you get.
In the rear we are using 1.5mm to 2mm spacers on top of the riser plate. The higher you go the more free your rear will be. You may also mix up the spacers to get .5mm of anti-squat. This helps the rear rotate off power entering corners and really helps the car square up and exit the corner.
If you run the Teemu Chassis subtract .5mm from all the above spacers as that chassis is 2.5mm thick.
Shocks:
Whether you run Tam or Schu Shocks the best starting setup is 3 holes 40wt, AE blue front springs and AE silver rear. We have run this setup everywhere and it seems to work very well. Softer front springs cause a loss of turn in due to the front end dumping. Stiffer rear springs are a possibility but we haven't had to resort to that. Thinner oil might be a good thing. I think the Sacramento guys have had good luck with that but we haven't felt the need to change this where we have raced.
Sway Bars:
We run the stock bars front and rear everywhere. There is a new sway bar kit on the way with 1.2 and 1.5mm front and rear bars (U2728 - $8.99). We will be trying these thinner bars as soon as we get them. We should have them this week. The main reason for wanting to try these is that the car seems to be too flat in the corners. If it rolled more it would get more grip and be even easier on the tires. This would make the car better in the heat and on re-run tires.
With the stock chassis we are running no front riser plate. We use 1mm or 1.5mm spacers from TakeOff. The lower you go the more steering you get.
In the rear we are using 1.5mm to 2mm spacers on top of the riser plate. The higher you go the more free your rear will be. You may also mix up the spacers to get .5mm of anti-squat. This helps the rear rotate off power entering corners and really helps the car square up and exit the corner.
If you run the Teemu Chassis subtract .5mm from all the above spacers as that chassis is 2.5mm thick.
Shocks:
Whether you run Tam or Schu Shocks the best starting setup is 3 holes 40wt, AE blue front springs and AE silver rear. We have run this setup everywhere and it seems to work very well. Softer front springs cause a loss of turn in due to the front end dumping. Stiffer rear springs are a possibility but we haven't had to resort to that. Thinner oil might be a good thing. I think the Sacramento guys have had good luck with that but we haven't felt the need to change this where we have raced.
Sway Bars:
We run the stock bars front and rear everywhere. There is a new sway bar kit on the way with 1.2 and 1.5mm front and rear bars (U2728 - $8.99). We will be trying these thinner bars as soon as we get them. We should have them this week. The main reason for wanting to try these is that the car seems to be too flat in the corners. If it rolled more it would get more grip and be even easier on the tires. This would make the car better in the heat and on re-run tires.
09-27-2004, 08:10 AM
#7294
I was testing with 27GLR's all day. The grip was very consitant all day with temps from about 90F in the morning to 140+ in the after noon. When it was that hot though, and pushing the car, the tires would get over heated and start to get pretty loose. Paragon seemed to actually keep this down a little. It happend quicker when the tires were run dry.
09-27-2004, 10:19 AM
#7296
Yes we sell the spacers. Add the color to the part# to get the full part number...ex TS112P is a .75mm Purple spacer
jkerr - Try Trinity Tire Tweak. It is the best high heat compound for the TakeOffs. Be sure to wipe it off hard 5min before you run or the tires will be slimy for the first lap.
jkerr - Try Trinity Tire Tweak. It is the best high heat compound for the TakeOffs. Be sure to wipe it off hard 5min before you run or the tires will be slimy for the first lap.
09-27-2004, 10:33 AM
#7297
I'll get some and try that. Here's the set up I ended up with. Like I said, I still have a bunch of things I want to try on it but this setup was pretty comfortable to drive. I'll be making some setup changes this week and running again on Sunday. I'll let you guy know what I find.
09-27-2004, 12:59 PM
#7299
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09-27-2004, 01:05 PM
#7301
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Originally posted by AdrianM
Yes we sell the spacers. Add the color to the part# to get the full part number...ex TS112P is a .75mm Purple spacer
jkerr - Try Trinity Tire Tweak. It is the best high heat compound for the TakeOffs. Be sure to wipe it off hard 5min before you run or the tires will be slimy for the first lap.
Yes we sell the spacers. Add the color to the part# to get the full part number...ex TS112P is a .75mm Purple spacer
jkerr - Try Trinity Tire Tweak. It is the best high heat compound for the TakeOffs. Be sure to wipe it off hard 5min before you run or the tires will be slimy for the first lap.
Thanks
Brian
09-27-2004, 01:35 PM
#7305
Tech Adept
Originally posted by AdrianM
Roll Centers
With the stock chassis we are running no front riser plate. We use 1mm or 1.5mm spacers from TakeOff. The lower you go the more steering you get.
In the rear we are using 1.5mm to 2mm spacers on top of the riser plate. The higher you go the more free your rear will be. You may also mix up the spacers to get .5mm of anti-squat. This helps the rear rotate off power entering corners and really helps the car square up and exit the corner.
If you run the Teemu Chassis subtract .5mm from all the above spacers as that chassis is 2.5mm thick.
Roll Centers
With the stock chassis we are running no front riser plate. We use 1mm or 1.5mm spacers from TakeOff. The lower you go the more steering you get.
In the rear we are using 1.5mm to 2mm spacers on top of the riser plate. The higher you go the more free your rear will be. You may also mix up the spacers to get .5mm of anti-squat. This helps the rear rotate off power entering corners and really helps the car square up and exit the corner.
If you run the Teemu Chassis subtract .5mm from all the above spacers as that chassis is 2.5mm thick.
On the front are you still using the original raiser plate cut down to brace across the top?
Cheers
Adyb
