Pro 10: 235mm Le Mans Prototype Pan Car Discussion
#991
Tech Initiate
So I took my RC10LS to the track after not driving a pan car for a good 10 years, anyway traction was very low, track was very dusty. Car is running a 6.5T, everytime I throttled a but of power, like 40% it would snap left very hard. I loosened the diff, this helped a little but it would still do it. I got used to driving the car around at very low speed and it turned in quite well but any time i gave it a little throttle it would just turn very abruptly. Any ideas? I think it might be something with the diff... I ended up having quite a crash chasing my friend's TC, I damaged the NOS carbon chassis, broke a servo mount, de laminated a bit I will glue and clamp it....
After my car was dead I drive his TC, they are so forgiving! Very easy to drive on a low traction track.
After my car was dead I drive his TC, they are so forgiving! Very easy to drive on a low traction track.
#992
These are 3mm 7075 t6 aluminium. The original L2 podplate is 2.2mm thick. The original podplates have a tendency to bend more easy. I had a L2 podplate bend last weekend. (not sure how long it was bend, maybe i have driven a couple of races with it but found out on monday after dissasembling the pod).
They will be for sale through an online shop once the podplate is final. It will not be long.
Just something for the T-bar loving crowd
Last edited by 2wdrive; 08-08-2012 at 02:34 AM.
#993
Tech Initiate
2wdrive - Cool, do you have an online store or on someone elses?
THEBIGBULL - PM sent, thanks!
#995
Dusty days doin' donuts
The RC10LSS wide hooked up pretty good ........until the tires filled with the evil red paint dust. Then it was donut time. We are concerned that if we sweep the track the broom will cause more of the paint to separate from the asphalt surface of the outdoor basketball court that we use making it an even worst situation. Perhaps using a leaf blower?? no water is available to wash the track.
#996
A heavy duty commercial blower will do the job, though it might also erode the paint a little. It's much better than sweeping. It is also a hot, dirty job that requires ear plugs and possibly a face mask. I used the plugs, but not the mask, depends on sensitive you are to the dust. Start at one end and work toward the other.
#997
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
Hi!
Maybe stupid but why not ask?
I just put fluid cs competition grip (this thicker one) on pro10 lilacs tires (spec ones) for ~16h, tires put to bag for night.
Now next day foams are very nice, under finger are more nice then same tire/compund with markus mobers foam fluid 30min.
Now what I think and maybe want.
In my 200mm pan car with sophia body (rules like wgt), tires with markus mobers start working bad when they "over soaked". It looks like rear end has too much grip or something like that, must drive few times on dusty place
Question is, tires prepared with another fluid can be better? few sets for all event, just take them from bag and put on car?
Just thinking, same tricks do drivers when can do with 1/8th nitro on road scale put thicker fluid on foam day before ...
Also I think about small machine like capricorn to made soaking tires better
Regards and sorry for that stupidyty
m.
Maybe stupid but why not ask?
I just put fluid cs competition grip (this thicker one) on pro10 lilacs tires (spec ones) for ~16h, tires put to bag for night.
Now next day foams are very nice, under finger are more nice then same tire/compund with markus mobers foam fluid 30min.
Now what I think and maybe want.
In my 200mm pan car with sophia body (rules like wgt), tires with markus mobers start working bad when they "over soaked". It looks like rear end has too much grip or something like that, must drive few times on dusty place
Question is, tires prepared with another fluid can be better? few sets for all event, just take them from bag and put on car?
Just thinking, same tricks do drivers when can do with 1/8th nitro on road scale put thicker fluid on foam day before ...
Also I think about small machine like capricorn to made soaking tires better
Regards and sorry for that stupidyty
m.
#998
pre soaking has it merrits but what if it rains on race day? The tires will be more or less useless when they get soaked too long in a bag.
We don't wear the tires in one go like they do in 1/8 scale so any additive that is still in the tires will degrade the foam further.
Tuning on the spot is not possible either.
Best thing to do is to find out how much you need to soak before it wears off during the run. Anything more is wasted and will degrade the natural rubber in the foam even more then usual. Degraded/soft foam is more wear and less traction when re-using the same tires.
At least that is my experience.
We don't wear the tires in one go like they do in 1/8 scale so any additive that is still in the tires will degrade the foam further.
Tuning on the spot is not possible either.
Best thing to do is to find out how much you need to soak before it wears off during the run. Anything more is wasted and will degrade the natural rubber in the foam even more then usual. Degraded/soft foam is more wear and less traction when re-using the same tires.
At least that is my experience.
#1000
German pancar nationals just been held last weekend. Here you can see a video from the 3rd leg of A-Mains http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXmsQcyav-U
Fastest laptimes are about 0.5s faster than 1/8th cars track record. Motors are either 4T or 4.5T or 6 - 7T delta wind and 2S battery of course. Data logging from one car is showing about 90.000 rpm from the motor at max. speed what equals to about 140 km/h.
Fastest laptimes are about 0.5s faster than 1/8th cars track record. Motors are either 4T or 4.5T or 6 - 7T delta wind and 2S battery of course. Data logging from one car is showing about 90.000 rpm from the motor at max. speed what equals to about 140 km/h.
#1001
awesome.........42 pro10 drivers! Wish i could have been there....
instead i had a race in the WET with a handfull of drivers.
instead i had a race in the WET with a handfull of drivers.
Last edited by 2wdrive; 08-27-2012 at 05:19 AM.
#1002
The motor is that sensorless? what brand and turn/Kv?
Thanks!
Johnny, from an all to often wet Ostersund in Sweden
#1003
The wheels are tamiya caps on pro10 tires.
I use a corally red line sensorless 13.5t and a fake ezrun 60A esc. Others use 10.5t. My ride height is 10+mm.
I use a corally red line sensorless 13.5t and a fake ezrun 60A esc. Others use 10.5t. My ride height is 10+mm.
#1004
#1005
Tech Elite
iTrader: (5)
I have read in the 1/10 pancar thread years ago that someone tried it out and that they didn't work. The rubber on those BSR capped tires is a harder kind of rubber designed for dry asphalt. It is not the same rubber as the Tamiya caps that are very soft and specially suited for the rain.