Tamiya F104 Pro!
#5566
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mantiswo...12/HNLt0wUjurQ
#5567
Tech Adept
whenever i sell my plane ill be getting a f104 for sure.
#5568
Tech Master
iTrader: (5)
I am looking for tips to get more front grip on my 104 with Exotek chassis. I am running on asphalt with rubber tires(both Tamiya(rear soft) and Shimizus(F1, R1)). The Tamiyas had slightly better grip today but both fell off very quick after about 10 laps. I think this had to due with track temps. The asphalt was covered in dust and pollen. This along with the warm track temps(120's) the car was all over the place. The more laps I ran the dust and pollen cleared(a few spots there was a cloud of dust behind the car) and traction improved. As traction improves the rear gains grip and the front stays about the same.
More than anything I would like more front grip off throttle. I have adjusted ride height, front springs, rear preload and shock length. This is my first pod type car and just looking for some things to try adjusting. What does changing the side springs preload do? What does changing this do to the handling of the car? Also if I wanted to get some different springs to try for the rear shock what works?
More than anything I would like more front grip off throttle. I have adjusted ride height, front springs, rear preload and shock length. This is my first pod type car and just looking for some things to try adjusting. What does changing the side springs preload do? What does changing this do to the handling of the car? Also if I wanted to get some different springs to try for the rear shock what works?
#5569
Tech Elite
iTrader: (10)
thanx! its a BLAST to drive even in bad track conditions. i could not drive my regular 104 at all yesterday because the track was so slippery. this car has an independent rear suspension with oil filled differential,3* of toe in and 1.5* of rear camber. on this vid i had thicker dif fluid than it should have been and it makes it skate around more, i was too lazy to put thinner in here is the chassis up close:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mantiswo...12/HNLt0wUjurQ
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mantiswo...12/HNLt0wUjurQ
#5570
not even close, i retired my faithfull 104, the IRS is over a second quicker per lap on avg for this track on foam, even more on rubber. unless you have prime track conditions the 104 cant cut it. just having rear toe and camber makes all the difference in grip. its virtually impossible to slide the rear out on turn exit and actually drive through it on the pod chassis. as you can tell it enables you to drive very aggressive and not worry about spinning around. on that video the track was in horrible shape, it had just rained that night and there was no sugar or rubber layed down.
#5571
Hi I have a F104 pro lightweight version for sale. Fully hop up with Tamiya aluminium parts, come with spare parts, box, instruction manual, few new sets of rubber tyre, 1 new set of sponge tyre. Asking US$200 exclude postage thks. Interested pls PM.
#5572
Tech Champion
iTrader: (22)
More than anything I would like more front grip off throttle. I have adjusted ride height, front springs, rear preload and shock length. This is my first pod type car and just looking for some things to try adjusting. What does changing the side springs preload do? What does changing this do to the handling of the car? Also if I wanted to get some different springs to try for the rear shock what works?
Changing the side springs (stiffer) will make the car more reactive off center, and can take away grip in low traction. Preloading too much is not a great idea. You just want them touching enough to tweak the car. Some guys run with no preload, but I think the car feels "floaty" like that.
#5573
Hi MantisWorkx,
Have you tried an F104 with steel axle and 100grms or so of additional weight on your track? Still slower?
How heavy is your IRS car?
ty.
Have you tried an F104 with steel axle and 100grms or so of additional weight on your track? Still slower?
How heavy is your IRS car?
ty.
#5574
Tech Master
iTrader: (5)
Add length to the center shock to allow more pod droop, that should help off power steering.
Changing the side springs (stiffer) will make the car more reactive off center, and can take away grip in low traction. Preloading too much is not a great idea. You just want them touching enough to tweak the car. Some guys run with no preload, but I think the car feels "floaty" like that.
Changing the side springs (stiffer) will make the car more reactive off center, and can take away grip in low traction. Preloading too much is not a great idea. You just want them touching enough to tweak the car. Some guys run with no preload, but I think the car feels "floaty" like that.
#5575
Tech Champion
iTrader: (15)
I am looking for tips to get more front grip on my 104 with Exotek chassis. I am running on asphalt with rubber tires(both Tamiya(rear soft) and Shimizus(F1, R1)). The Tamiyas had slightly better grip today but both fell off very quick after about 10 laps. I think this had to due with track temps. The asphalt was covered in dust and pollen. This along with the warm track temps(120's) the car was all over the place. The more laps I ran the dust and pollen cleared(a few spots there was a cloud of dust behind the car) and traction improved. As traction improves the rear gains grip and the front stays about the same.
More than anything I would like more front grip off throttle. I have adjusted ride height, front springs, rear preload and shock length. This is my first pod type car and just looking for some things to try adjusting. What does changing the side springs preload do? What does changing this do to the handling of the car? Also if I wanted to get some different springs to try for the rear shock what works?
More than anything I would like more front grip off throttle. I have adjusted ride height, front springs, rear preload and shock length. This is my first pod type car and just looking for some things to try adjusting. What does changing the side springs preload do? What does changing this do to the handling of the car? Also if I wanted to get some different springs to try for the rear shock what works?
Add length to the center shock to allow more pod droop, that should help off power steering.
Changing the side springs (stiffer) will make the car more reactive off center, and can take away grip in low traction. Preloading too much is not a great idea. You just want them touching enough to tweak the car. Some guys run with no preload, but I think the car feels "floaty" like that.
Changing the side springs (stiffer) will make the car more reactive off center, and can take away grip in low traction. Preloading too much is not a great idea. You just want them touching enough to tweak the car. Some guys run with no preload, but I think the car feels "floaty" like that.
#5576
Tech Regular
iTrader: (4)
thanx! its a BLAST to drive even in bad track conditions. i could not drive my regular 104 at all yesterday because the track was so slippery. this car has an independent rear suspension with oil filled differential,3* of toe in and 1.5* of rear camber. on this vid i had thicker dif fluid than it should have been and it makes it skate around more, i was too lazy to put thinner in here is the chassis up close:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mantiswo...12/HNLt0wUjurQ
http://www.youtube.com/user/Mantiswo...12/HNLt0wUjurQ
#5577
Tech Elite
iTrader: (2)
Having just started looking into F1 for UF1 and looking at another class for IIC this fall i have to say this thing is just brilliant. I havent seen anything in any of the UF1 or IIC rules for f1 stating it has to be a pod based rear end so i wonder what the legality of racing it would be at a higher level of competition?
#5579
low nose http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXAXYN&P=7 seem to be better looking than high nose. This Ferrari kit is more than the pro kits which are no longer produced. Price seems high on Tower.
#5580
this coming weekend i will have more footage with my old 104 (mantisworx chassis) and two exotec chassis cars. granted none of them can drive that well so it wont be a fair comparison but for video sake i will wrench on them and get them as good as i can. i know my old 104 is super quick but even at best we all know you cant put a 3s setup on a pod car and actually run quicker than a normal 2s 17.5 boosted. too much tq. the best thing about this car is you can drive the CRAP outa it with no fear! instead of always walking on eggshells (or driving!)
its a tough year for me financially to travel around but i would LOVE to get to one of those Uf1 events, they look fun!