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Old 06-02-2010, 10:00 PM
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It's been mentioned on this thread before but no one responded. That site is www.rc-trg.com. Be prepared...its all Japanese
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Old 06-02-2010, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by j.d.roost View Post
As said above the 103 front will be a direct bolt on.I am running that setup right now.
I would suggest running the 103 rear tires so you don't have a
crazy offset thing going on.
The 103 pins have notches to hold the knuckle in place and hold the spring at the bottom of the arm.
Thanks for all the hints guys. I ordered some kingpins, but inadvertently, not the standard ones

I picked up the 53119 "special" ones and I've attached the instruction sheet for people's benefit. The spring does indeed fit between the knuckle and the upper arm.

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Old 06-03-2010, 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoracer View Post
Newbie question here. Seen this TRG setup mentioned in this thread before but no answers were offered. Anybody tried this on the F104 and what is the effect ?? Any other TRG chassis or suspension stuff that is working well ??
i know its TRG but looks similar to a 3Racing setup
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Old 06-03-2010, 03:39 AM
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Hi,

Could you advise at what point are you getting your understeer?

On turn-ins/off-power or on-power?

If it is on-power, How is your diff setup?

If it is off-power, have you tried 0.5 degree of toe out?

Is the problem equal on both left and right turns?

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Originally Posted by Steve Pertuch View Post
Hi guys I have a setup question to everybody. It seems like I have the opposite problem like most of you guys. My car seems to push/understeer a lot. We are driving on a carpet indoor track and it seems like I can't keep up with all the others in the infield. To get arround the corners I have to drive slow and have to take the corners wide. It seems like I get not enough weight on the front tires.

Here is my setup:

F104 Ferrari F60

http://www.tamiyaclub.com/showroom_m...8023&sid=20068

- Type A foam tires
- soft gold M chassis spring
- 200 weight Tamiya Oil
- 3 whole shim in damper
- teflon friction plates with no grease
- kit springs on the front
- 1 degree camber
- 0 degrees toe (neutral)
- jack the gripper for saucing ... half on the fronts/full on the rears
- kit T-bar
- rideheight in the fron 4mm 5.5 in the back


I don't know what the problem is but I need more corner speed to be competitive. Can it be that because of the soft setup in the rear not enough weight gets transferred to the front while breaking? The other problem is this track is bumpy as crazy and so the car should be soft in the rear otherwise you loose contact on the fast straight.

The car is also really twitchy for that I will try more Expo the next time like most of you guys recommended.

Anyone ideas about the problem?

Thanks

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Old 06-03-2010, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by geeunit1014 View Post
He saw what a good 103 does against a good 104, and its not pretty

Like I am one to talk anyway...What car did I end up running in the main last week?(103)
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im getting f104 set up for a race in two weeks hopefully i could get it done with this car
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Old 06-03-2010, 07:08 AM
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If I start racing, which kind of stuff (spare parts, tires, tools, oils, etc.) do I need for a whole race weekend (tamiya cup germany)?
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Old 06-03-2010, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Evoracer View Post
Newbie question here. Seen this TRG setup mentioned in this thread before but no answers were offered. Anybody tried this on the F104 and what is the effect ?? Any other TRG chassis or suspension stuff that is working well ??
They are side damper tubes much like you see on 1/12pan cars except they are lever actuated when the rear pod moves left or right. They do not actuate when the pod moves front to back. Simple yet ingenious
Damper tubes are generally more consistent then damper pucks.
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:48 PM
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Hey my Homies!

What setup tips can you give me for my new F104 (F60) with rubber tires to get around the carpet at TQ?

I've got kit tires for front and rear + a set of options for the rear too.

So, are F1s running in the 24?
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Old 06-04-2010, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by F N CUDA View Post
Hey my Homies!

What setup tips can you give me for my new F104 (F60) with rubber tires to get around the carpet at TQ?

I've got kit tires for front and rear + a set of options for the rear too.

So, are F1s running in the 24?
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you might wanna go with a harder rubber tire up front. or could even put f103 tires on
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Old 06-04-2010, 07:28 AM
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limited black option parts
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:08 AM
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Great!

Now I gotta get the pod plates and diff hub parts just to match my MP25 scheme.
The Tamiya blue pretty much clash with every F1 team livery out there lol.
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Old 06-04-2010, 10:50 AM
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hahah!

i just finished my F60 earlier (minus the bodyshell) and mentioned to my friend how sexy the F104 is without any blue aluminium upgrade attached. especially with that red front and rear wings.

seemed that tamiya heard me and quickly put rcmarket to post the limited edition black anodized alum upgrades.....

oh no.....
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Old 06-04-2010, 11:46 AM
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What gearings do you use?
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Old 06-05-2010, 06:51 PM
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I see the new T-Bar is now available from retailers.

54222 F104 High-Traction T-Bar
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