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06-29-2011 | 09:48 AM
#7381
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From: Chicago Illinois USA
06-29-2011 | 11:18 AM
#7383
I just got back into racing after taking 1.5 years off and decided to go with the GT 2.0 Pro for 17.5 TC. I'm using the latest firmware and was wondering that the "blinky" mode is just profile 0? Or do I need to do something different? Thanks in advance.
06-29-2011 | 11:20 AM
#7384
You have to flash software 508 in order to get "blinky" mode.
06-29-2011 | 12:42 PM
#7386
06-29-2011 | 01:15 PM
#7387
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From: Chicago Illinois USA
06-29-2011 | 04:18 PM
#7388
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Assuming the Tekin timing #'s correlate to the Speed Passion ESC #'s, then you are pretty close to the setups we run here.
For a 120ft straight, gearing between 6.8 and 7.4 FDR (depending on track / motor combo / ESC settings) is the typical range.
If your temps are coming off at 120F, you can try the following:
45 Boost
18 Turbo
0.1 delay
2 ramp (you can try 1 if the motor temps stay low to see if it likes the timing sooner)
16K for the end RPM, and somewhere between 3000-4000 for the start.
Start at 7.2FDR and see how it responds.
On another note, the option timing boards the Speed Passion sells really wakes up these motors for 1/10th TC use. I am running a 30 degree board (set to 24 degrees) and it really helped get more rip out of the corners due to the mechanical timing advance.
Let us know how those settings work out. Remember to check the motor temps after a couple minutes with the new settings.
EDIT: Just noted that you were 13.5, not 17.5 which is what the settings above are for...... Gearing more like 7.4 - 7.8 FDR for 13.5
45 Boost
18 Turbo
0.1 delay
2 ramp (you can try 1 if the motor temps stay low to see if it likes the timing sooner)
19K for the end RPM, and somewhere between 4000-4500 for the start.
Sorry about that.
Jimmy
For a 120ft straight, gearing between 6.8 and 7.4 FDR (depending on track / motor combo / ESC settings) is the typical range.
If your temps are coming off at 120F, you can try the following:
45 Boost
18 Turbo
0.1 delay
2 ramp (you can try 1 if the motor temps stay low to see if it likes the timing sooner)
16K for the end RPM, and somewhere between 3000-4000 for the start.
Start at 7.2FDR and see how it responds.
On another note, the option timing boards the Speed Passion sells really wakes up these motors for 1/10th TC use. I am running a 30 degree board (set to 24 degrees) and it really helped get more rip out of the corners due to the mechanical timing advance.
Let us know how those settings work out. Remember to check the motor temps after a couple minutes with the new settings.
EDIT: Just noted that you were 13.5, not 17.5 which is what the settings above are for...... Gearing more like 7.4 - 7.8 FDR for 13.5
45 Boost
18 Turbo
0.1 delay
2 ramp (you can try 1 if the motor temps stay low to see if it likes the timing sooner)
19K for the end RPM, and somewhere between 4000-4500 for the start.
Sorry about that.
Jimmy
I have the original sensor board, 2 questions:
1. Do you run with the maximum end bell timing or minimum?
2. The new sensor boards, are they that much better for boosted? +10-20 seems like too much timing
thanks
06-30-2011 | 01:27 PM
#7389
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,295
From: Chicago Illinois USA
2. Yes...that too, the rip is night and day...but of course, once we are running the 20 and 30° sensor, we have to back down the ESC boost/SC but alot to balance it. We did try to use old setup with fast rotor, full timing on motor (totally for testing) and only take 2 minutes the magic smoke came out, rotor in pieces (yes...alot of pieces) and the motor is a solid SPOOL afterall.
06-30-2011 | 01:36 PM
#7390
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Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 584
From: Kansas City
For boosted esc racing- I like the 10* sensor maxed.
I have been trying the 20* sensor turned to 15* and
turning down the esc settings a little.
For limited esc class - 30* sensor maxed.
Solara- love ya....punk....
I have been trying the 20* sensor turned to 15* and
turning down the esc settings a little.
For limited esc class - 30* sensor maxed.
Solara- love ya....punk....
06-30-2011 | 01:48 PM
#7391
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 9,295
From: Chicago Illinois USA
I need that GT rematch, MWS in 3 weeks...bring it on.
And thanks for your insight.
06-30-2011 | 02:26 PM
#7392
.Hopefully will have the setup fine tuned this weekend.
Jimmy
07-01-2011 | 04:11 AM
#7393
Not carpet, but you can try gear to 7.0 ~7.2 and use this setup...
http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...0Jimmy%20S.jpg
http://www.speedpassion.net/uploadfi...0Jimmy%20S.jpg
have been testing this exact setup on large asphalt track, (Moorebank Sydney, 17.5 duo 3, TOP Photon) but I still get hosed down the main straight (1-2 meters)
I have tried gearing up from 6.7 to 6.5, but this did not improve times.
down low it is lacking a bit as well,
(perhaps I am overgeared?)
over 6mins motor is coming off max 137deg F.
07-01-2011 | 05:41 AM
#7394
hello
can some point in the rite direction for a gear ratio with a 17.5 i am running at 4.5 at the momant and during testing it doesnt seem to be very good.i copied a programme form the speed passion site but i dont notice any boost at all. the motor timing is standard at the momentas it came out of the box.
i am alittle confused at the moment trying to catch up on technolagy not raced TC for 4 plus years
thanks
can some point in the rite direction for a gear ratio with a 17.5 i am running at 4.5 at the momant and during testing it doesnt seem to be very good.i copied a programme form the speed passion site but i dont notice any boost at all. the motor timing is standard at the momentas it came out of the box.
i am alittle confused at the moment trying to catch up on technolagy not raced TC for 4 plus years
thanks
07-01-2011 | 05:50 AM
#7395
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 8,854
From: In a land of mini-mighty mental giants
have been testing this exact setup on large asphalt track, (Moorebank Sydney, 17.5 duo 3, TOP Photon) but I still get hosed down the main straight (1-2 meters)
I have tried gearing up from 6.7 to 6.5, but this did not improve times.
down low it is lacking a bit as well,
(perhaps I am overgeared?)
over 6mins motor is coming off max 137deg F.
I have tried gearing up from 6.7 to 6.5, but this did not improve times.
down low it is lacking a bit as well,
(perhaps I am overgeared?)
over 6mins motor is coming off max 137deg F.
First how much timing are you using in your D3?
With 1 notch off center I would make these changes.....Try taking #4 and go to level 9....take #9 and go to 45deg.....take #10 to 6deg/0.1s....take #12 to 15deg....take #14 to 0s. This should increase the bottom end along with top end.....and gear at 6.7 to 6.5 to start and check temps. Hope this helps some.