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Solara 08-07-2010 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by MikeXray (Post 7771654)
What to do on the 2.0 with non translucent case, I put on the stock software looked for a blinking LED and realized I couldn't see any of them, lol.

Give SP USA a call...they will get that clear undercover send over to you.... Please specific which GT2, color and is that LPF or Pro...

skypilot 08-07-2010 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin K (Post 7773035)
Hows everything working out?

not good, can't get it fast, I did mount a team powers fan on it, it mounts on the motor and sucks the heat out, works amazing well, I ran your setup and the motor was only 122 after 4 minutes (limited practice time) but was getting pulled like crazy everywhere, infield and straight, didn't have a chance to mess with gearing. Its turned into a testing a weekend, instead of a race weekend. At the reedy I was top 10 easy, even with running only one set of tires all weekend, at Nats, these same guys are ballistic, my driving is off from the Reedy but still, its crazy fast here.

even thou I loved this boost stuff when it first came out, I'm starting to think its quickly becoming more work then its worth. especially for us weekend warriors without a full time track.

I have some re thinking and soul searching to do on which products I use. All of them.

corallyman 08-07-2010 09:36 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin K (Post 7773035)
Hows everything working out?

I am also at the Nat's with Ritchie and all the NW racers. It is crazy fast and I have blown up 3 motors this week. One of them was brand new too but that was my fault. Oh well I am still having fun but it's sad to see what a bad series of breaks Ritchie's had to deal with.

Steve

Barger 08-07-2010 11:52 PM

Guys I am having a problem....Blowing up 2 sp17.5 motors!!! I am using 528 software,having trouble keeping up (not top end but more so out of corners) with the bloody tekins.Both times the motors smoked they felt like I had lots of drag brake programed in...but there was none!!!then within one to two laps they blew.the program I had in when the second motor blew was not far off the tekins but came in hotter than the previous program(that was not fast enough... .5sec per lap)...motor came off at 90 degrees...previously 68/70 degrees
settings
1/1
2/1
3/4
4/8
5/4
6/4
7/2
8/1
9/8
10/1
12/9
13/1
14/2
15/1
FDR5.73
I would call it a med to large track
What am I doing wrong?
Motor timing at max

ixlr8nz 08-08-2010 12:11 AM


Originally Posted by Barger (Post 7775386)
Guys I am having a problem....Blowing up 2 sp17.5 motors!!! I am using 528 software,having trouble keeping up (not top end but more so out of corners) with the bloody tekins.Both times the motors smoked they felt like I had lots of drag brake programed in...but there was none!!!then within one to two laps they blew.the program I had in when the second motor blew was not far off the tekins but came in hotter than the previous program(that was not fast enough... .5sec per lap)...motor came off at 90 degrees...previously 68/70 degrees
settings
1/1
2/1
3/4
4/8
5/4
6/4
7/2
8/1
9/8
10/1
12/9
13/1
14/2
15/1
FDR5.73
I would call it a med to large track
What am I doing wrong?
Motor timing at max

Try 14 at 5. That is what hobbywing recommends for 17.5 motors. Does any of the competition have gear diffs? That can make some difference in acceleration especially if your diff is slipping a little

Mike

kiloolli 08-08-2010 03:43 AM

2 Attachment(s)
Hello,

can you Help me for ESC Setup for German Masters?

I Drive a GT2.0 with a 17.5 Corally Engine. The Software is 422(give it a newer Software?).
The Corally Engine had 30° internal Timing and the Max FDR in this Race is 5,0.
My Car is a TRF416X with Spec-R Gear Diff. I Have a second Spec-R Diff what i will Test in front and rear.
It is the Home Track from Marc Rheinard, in this Year the Track of the German Masters.

g12314 08-08-2010 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by Barger (Post 7775386)
Guys I am having a problem....Blowing up 2 sp17.5 motors!!! I am using 528 software,having trouble keeping up (not top end but more so out of corners) with the bloody tekins.Both times the motors smoked they felt like I had lots of drag brake programed in...but there was none!!!then within one to two laps they blew.the program I had in when the second motor blew was not far off the tekins but came in hotter than the previous program(that was not fast enough... .5sec per lap)...motor came off at 90 degrees...previously 68/70 degrees
settings
1/1
2/1
3/4
4/8
5/4
6/4
7/2
8/1
9/8
10/1
12/9
13/1
14/2
15/1
FDR5.73
I would call it a med to large track
What am I doing wrong?
Motor timing at max

I see two things in the settings you posted:
#1
Your RPM window for timing is much to narrow (#15 setting): Start 3000 & End 8800 This will cause the motor to feel sluggish (too much timing applied to fast) and generate excessive heat.

#2
The SC delay (#14 setting) of 0.1sec combined with your above timing settings is causing an excessive amount of timing being applied to the motor.

Your FDR of 5.73 would signal to me that you on a Big track. Have a look a few posts back for the setup I posted for 200ft track to get an idea of settings.

I would at least change your current #13 setting to 2 and #15 to 3. If it seems slow, don't be afraid to drop several teeth on the pinion. A zero delay SC setup typically needs a lot of RPM to go fast, and we typically will run it on short / med technical tracks as you get a lot of rip out of the corner with it.

Jimmy

jeff jenkins 08-08-2010 11:18 AM

hey guys i have the 528 mod software in my 2.0 pro right now and ive done the search but i cant seem to find the differences between the mod and the 528 stock software i mainly run mod right now but sometimes run stock and was wondering if they are close enough so i dont have to switch the firmware everytime i choose to run stock instead of modified . :nod:

robk 08-08-2010 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by skypilot (Post 7774653)
I ran your setup and the motor was only 122 after 4 minutes (limited practice time) but was getting pulled like crazy everywhere, infield and straight, didn't have a chance to mess with gearing.


That is why you are getting pulled. Your motor is in a completely different powerband and will not run geared in the 5's. It will look like you're getting dominated all over until you run the proper gear ratio (7 + FDR)

Barger 08-08-2010 02:05 PM

Thanks guys...will try your settings and get back to you

S.A.W 08-08-2010 02:09 PM

Hi,

I'm running a T3 with SP motor and 528 software. I raced a few weeks back in 17.5t and used,

9-8
12-9
13-1
14-1 (0.1)
15-1

geared at 4.96 and the car was really quick and temps were ok so thought I'd try a 13.5t class.

If I use the suggested settings of,

9-8
12-7
13-3
14-5
15-1

the car is slow so I need to use the settings from the 17.5t and have to gear it 5.93 to be competative.

so thought i'd just try a 10.5t with,

9-5
12-7
13-4
14-4
15-4

and it's sllloooowww ?

I always seem to have to use the 17.5t settings and gear it by temp but no mater what I geared it too it was barely any quicker than the 13.5t. I tried 6.5 all the way to 5.0 ad it never really made much difference until I advanced the motor timing but this only added 1 or 2 mph top end ???

What's some good settings for 13.5 and 10.5 speed passion motors do I need the motor timing up, down or leave it in the middle ?

I'm confused with it, any tips please :confused: the track is outdoors with a 45m straight, mostly fast flowing with only a few technical places.

Thanks.

Tha Skinny 08-08-2010 03:37 PM

Hey guys, can I just get a switch from so USA. Mine came off ofctje chassis this weekend and I lost the top part to it. Is this something I need to send I'm my speedo for?

marcel p 08-08-2010 04:18 PM

[QUOTE=S.A.W;7777418]Hi,

I'm running a T3 with SP motor and 528 software. I raced a few weeks back in 17.5t and used,

9-8
12-9
13-1
14-1 (0.1)
15-1

geared at 4.96 and the car was really quick and temps were ok so thought I'd try a 13.5t class.

If I use the suggested settings of,

9-8
12-7
13-3
14-5
15-1

the car is slow so I need to use the settings from the 17.5t and have to gear it 5.93 to be competative.

so thought i'd just try a 10.5t with,

9-5
12-7
13-4
14-4
15-4

and it's sllloooowww ?

I always seem to have to use the 17.5t settings and gear it by temp but no mater what I geared it too it was barely any quicker than the 13.5t. I tried 6.5 all the way to 5.0 ad it never really made much difference until I advanced the motor timing but this only added 1 or 2 mph top end ???

What's some good settings for 13.5 and 10.5 speed passion motors do I need the motor timing up, down or leave it in the middle ?

I'm confused with it, any tips please :confused: the track is outdoors with a 45m straight, mostly fast flowing with only a few technical places.

Thanks.[/QUOTE

i use with 13.5 sp 3.0 motor on max timing

1-1
2-1
3-1
4-8
5-4
6-4
7-2
8-1
9-8
10-2
11-2
12-9
13-6
14-3
15-2
fdr 7.3 on a medium size track.

skypilot 08-08-2010 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by robk (Post 7777022)
That is why you are getting pulled. Your motor is in a completely different powerband and will not run geared in the 5's. It will look like you're getting dominated all over until you run the proper gear ratio (7 + FDR)

NO, NO, NO, NO....

I ran it at the recommend gearing I was given, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MESS IT TO SEE IF I COULD GET IT BETTER.

Kevin K 08-08-2010 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by skypilot (Post 7777898)
NO, NO, NO, NO....

I ran it at the recommend gearing I was given, I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO MESS IT TO SEE IF I COULD GET IT BETTER.

I have no idea what to say..... That setup is just as fast and faster then everything else. Everything you are saying is exactly what we were noticing with the previous ver of the software.....maybe double check your ESC and make sure its on 528. If it wasnt working then something more must have been going on....idk. Sucks that you had a bad weekend....god knows I have been there.


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