57LikesThe Speed Passion Thread
01-26-2010 | 06:22 PM
#1981
Tech Apprentice
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 86
From: San Jose, CA
Ok, thanks. and what about esc settings with a speedpassion 2.0 for timing and stuff like that ?
01-26-2010 | 06:45 PM
#1983
01-26-2010 | 10:13 PM
#1984
Tech Elite
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 2,812
From: Durban, South Africa
01-26-2010 | 10:38 PM
#1985
I guess we would need new software for the PC (one with parameter change for "turbo" settings) and new firmware for the ESC.
MAYBE the only thing I can think of as a limiting factor is if the ESC's microcontroller can handle all the timing functions.
Basically we are talking about a launch timing (low) that gets the car moving from standstill.
Acceleration range timing advance. Start RPM to End RPM presets and the number of degrees of advance presets per 1000rpm of change (as per Tekin, but it can literally be anything depending on motor, track, etc).
Top Speed Boost; advance of X degrees IF full throttle was held on to for preset amount of time. And tekin even says this doesn't work for short tracks!
All makes very logical sense to me!
MAYBE the only thing I can think of as a limiting factor is if the ESC's microcontroller can handle all the timing functions.
Basically we are talking about a launch timing (low) that gets the car moving from standstill.
Acceleration range timing advance. Start RPM to End RPM presets and the number of degrees of advance presets per 1000rpm of change (as per Tekin, but it can literally be anything depending on motor, track, etc).
Top Speed Boost; advance of X degrees IF full throttle was held on to for preset amount of time. And tekin even says this doesn't work for short tracks!
All makes very logical sense to me!
01-27-2010 | 08:35 AM
#1986
Tech Fanatic
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 893
SpeedPassion GT2.x Turbo
It is only a matter of time. Development isn't as easy as one may think. There are a lot of trial and errors involved. Perfection is achieved when all is done right to begin with. You can't just figure out the magic software and pull it out of a hat and say "here it is!" Just be patient.
Where did you find information on what the "tekin turbo" really is?
According to this http://forum.teamtekin.com/phpbb3/vi...hp?f=30&t=2413 from tekin's forum, it looks like a software thing! The key is timing change proportional to motor speed. It's variable timing!
According to this http://forum.teamtekin.com/phpbb3/vi...hp?f=30&t=2413 from tekin's forum, it looks like a software thing! The key is timing change proportional to motor speed. It's variable timing!
I guess we would need new software for the PC (one with parameter change for "turbo" settings) and new firmware for the ESC.
MAYBE the only thing I can think of as a limiting factor is if the ESC's microcontroller can handle all the timing functions.
Basically we are talking about a launch timing (low) that gets the car moving from standstill.
Acceleration range timing advance. Start RPM to End RPM presets and the number of degrees of advance presets per 1000rpm of change (as per Tekin, but it can literally be anything depending on motor, track, etc).
Top Speed Boost; advance of X degrees IF full throttle was held on to for preset amount of time. And tekin even says this doesn't work for short tracks!
All makes very logical sense to me!
MAYBE the only thing I can think of as a limiting factor is if the ESC's microcontroller can handle all the timing functions.
Basically we are talking about a launch timing (low) that gets the car moving from standstill.
Acceleration range timing advance. Start RPM to End RPM presets and the number of degrees of advance presets per 1000rpm of change (as per Tekin, but it can literally be anything depending on motor, track, etc).
Top Speed Boost; advance of X degrees IF full throttle was held on to for preset amount of time. And tekin even says this doesn't work for short tracks!
All makes very logical sense to me!
What is Called Dynamic Advanced Multi Timing,
it is not only, Physical Timing (motor) and Advanced Multi Timing (software).
Dynamic Advanced Multi Timing
which is now noted on GT 2.1 Pro Stock
it's likely different timing on different rpm edge.
Which software doing.
While torque is maintained.
01-27-2010 | 03:15 PM
#1988
For thoose asking about a 4.0t setup, have a look at this file from the Europe guys, details what they are running (it's included with the v1.32 software download from the SP site).
Also, regarding 12th.... Elliott Harper was running a GT2.0 in his CRC this weekend, TQing and winning the Stock class on the saturday (10.5/4cell). Asked him about his settings, and they are as follows;
Firmware; 107Stock
Motor; Comp v3
Drag brake; 0%
Initial Brak; as Drag
DRRS; 6
ESC timing; max (26.25)
Motor timing; max (+10)
Voltage cutoff; off
Gearing; 56mmpr
He did mention the motor was getting a bit too hot... so maybe use thoose as a baseline, but with a little less ESC timing to start. He also mentioned that he tried higher on the DRRS setting, but felt he had the same speed with more heat, so no need to go higher.
HiH
Ed
Also, regarding 12th.... Elliott Harper was running a GT2.0 in his CRC this weekend, TQing and winning the Stock class on the saturday (10.5/4cell). Asked him about his settings, and they are as follows;
Firmware; 107Stock
Motor; Comp v3
Drag brake; 0%
Initial Brak; as Drag
DRRS; 6
ESC timing; max (26.25)
Motor timing; max (+10)
Voltage cutoff; off
Gearing; 56mmpr
He did mention the motor was getting a bit too hot... so maybe use thoose as a baseline, but with a little less ESC timing to start. He also mentioned that he tried higher on the DRRS setting, but felt he had the same speed with more heat, so no need to go higher.
HiH
Ed
01-27-2010 | 06:13 PM
#1990
01-27-2010 | 08:41 PM
#1992
12th Scale Firmware....
Wonder how he was getting the 107 profile to work with only a 4 cell. I have tried it along with a few others here with the 1S and no luck.....must be just that little extra voltage bump from 3.7 to 4.8 that makes the difference. Although I just Won and TQ'd in a local event this past weekend with my XII with a 1S and V3 17.5 using the GT 2.0 LPF. 
I used the 312a firmware and it worked really well. 
Can"t wait for the new 2.1 to come out.....
I used the 312a firmware and it worked really well. Can"t wait for the new 2.1 to come out.....
01-28-2010 | 01:23 AM
#1995
Tech Adept
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 175
From: Johannesburg, South Africa
new stock software
hi guys
I have a SP v2.0 LPF which I have just loaded the new stock softeware on and was wondering if and by how much I should change my roll out by ? currently running it in 10.5 touring class.
another question, I see in the new v1.32 software that there is 2 stock profiles, what is the diff between the two and which one would best suite 10.5 ?
tx in advance
I have a SP v2.0 LPF which I have just loaded the new stock softeware on and was wondering if and by how much I should change my roll out by ? currently running it in 10.5 touring class.
another question, I see in the new v1.32 software that there is 2 stock profiles, what is the diff between the two and which one would best suite 10.5 ?
tx in advance
Last edited by SlideMasteR; 01-28-2010 at 01:40 AM.