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Old 05-09-2009, 01:54 PM
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Hello Jilles! Great winter season you had and good luck with upcoming races, you are a great driver!

My question is, do you at the moment work full time for Tamiya as a racing driver?

I want to do it myself, but need to know if there are any full time drivers out there

Thanks!

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Old 05-09-2009, 03:07 PM
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Thanks Jilles!

I'll give it a try with the motorcleaner before the run.



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hi jilles

i have just bought a new TRF416 world edition

A, is there anything i should buy extra to change from the build manual ??

B, do you want to come to groningen and build my TRF416we for me ??

C, do you run no shock rebound at all ?? i use 2 to 3 mm but the rear of my cars is loose , wonder if this is my problem

cheeRS phil
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Originally Posted by sidecarphil1
hi jilles

i have just bought a new TRF416 world edition

A, is there anything i should buy extra to change from the build manual ??

B, do you want to come to groningen and build my TRF416we for me ??

C, do you run no shock rebound at all ?? i use 2 to 3 mm but the rear of my cars is loose , wonder if this is my problem

cheeRS phil
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is that instead of the blue alloy ones ???

got some 46mm ones spare from my TRF415 will they be ok ??
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Old 05-11-2009, 02:38 PM
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yes the stock alloy bends too easily, replace them with steel, and yes 46mm will fit!
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Run the 46 in the front and you'll save the outdrives on the spool. The blue ones in the back are ok to use.
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Hi Jilles,

Currently I use a TA05 w/ spool in Mod on medium size, indoor asphalt. I'm thinking of buying a 416(WE). Is there a big performance difference between the two or is softer TA05 chassis good on asphalt w/ rubber tires?

Thank you in advance.

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Old 05-11-2009, 07:02 PM
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Hi Jilles, when I test my car couple weeks ago at the track and the track temp is about 128*F with the 32's tire ( Spec Tire ) was still perfect, so I test it again last weekend the track temp was up to 138*F with same set up and same Spec Tire (new), the car was spin all over the place, I changed different Springs, Roll center and it still the same. But I noticed one thing is since it was 45wt shocks oil up front and 40wt at the rear with only 20% rebound on it, when I changing Springs and noticed that the rebound was changed to like around 70% itself. My question is if the shocks oil got heat up it will expand? or because some little air got suck in to the shocks body and create bubbles and cause the rebound changed? If in this case, am I neccessary to check or even rebuild the shocks after each run? Thicker oil like 50wt at the front and 45wt rear or even higher? Please Help. Thanks.
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Hi Jiles,

I am not reaching neither Marc nor Toni so I thought you may give me some help.

I am going to race in Portugal at the same track where the 2008 1:10 Nitro Worlds took place last Summer.

The tires choice is free (2 sets for 7 Runs) , LiPo will be used with 9,5T time adjustable motors (very fast with 4,5 gearing?!!)

I have 2 T416 with spool and I am looking for advice on Setup and tire choice.
My speedo is still one GT 1,1 (From Toni) but I may get one of this new fancy ones with variable timing from GM if it can be one advantage (do you know if it is so?)

thanks in advance

Servus from Austria


PS: I still think that was a shame what happened at the Euros in Austria with your car belt.
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Originally Posted by EJ20
Hi Jilles, when I test my car couple weeks ago at the track and the track temp is about 128*F with the 32's tire ( Spec Tire ) was still perfect, so I test it again last weekend the track temp was up to 138*F with same set up and same Spec Tire (new), the car was spin all over the place, I changed different Springs, Roll center and it still the same. But I noticed one thing is since it was 45wt shocks oil up front and 40wt at the rear with only 20% rebound on it, when I changing Springs and noticed that the rebound was changed to like around 70% itself. My question is if the shocks oil got heat up it will expand? or because some little air got suck in to the shocks body and create bubbles and cause the rebound changed? If in this case, am I neccessary to check or even rebuild the shocks after each run? Thicker oil like 50wt at the front and 45wt rear or even higher? Please Help. Thanks.
What you'll find with oil is that as it heats up, it's viscosity will drop.... now, most oils (at a guess) will be rated in a lab at an ambient room temp (~21°C/69°F). At much higher temperatures, the viscosity will drop massively, and the oil will behave like it's a thinner/lighter oil.
So for much higher temps (like your seeing), you probably want to go up higher like you mention.

Track temp won't have a huge affect on this, it's the ambient temperature that you'll want to pay attention too. Still with a 138°F/59°C track temp, I'm guessing your ambient is pretty high anyway!

Jilles should be able to confirm this, but I guess that's partly the reason for the 700wt oil used at the worlds...

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hi Jilles,

2 Questions: Why do you run zero rebound in shocks? and why do you put 0.5mm shims under the Front suspension bridge? would you accomplish the same with a 2deg front c-hub? Thanks
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and why do you put 0.5mm shims under the Front suspension bridge? would you accomplish the same with a 2deg front c-hub? Thanks
This called anti-dive. While it does reduce caster, it's main function is to reduce the cars tendency to dive when braking. This, in turn, reduces the amount of weight transfer to the front tires under braking.
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Old 05-14-2009, 12:25 AM
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Hi Jilles, on what selection value you normally set for your ESC ie, Dragbrake, brake force and timing. Thanks.
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Old 05-15-2009, 07:19 AM
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Hi,

Is tyre tweak 2000 best used on top of another additive or can it be used on its own??

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