Awesomatix EP Touring Car (A700 Shaft Drive)
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#9228
Thanks Oleg for the update!
#9231
Tech Apprentice
I'm planning on running my A700 Evo2 on asphalt this weekend with the alloy chassis and bottom deck brace, in 13.5 boosted. In terms of the brace, does anyone have a starting point with how many screws to install into the brace and in which holes?
The track is low grip and no additive is allowed. I've run the carbon lower deck on it before with good results, but the increased flex of the alloy chassis means I'm trying that this weekend.
I run the RFG, 500cst in the 2.1 dampers with soft springs. Would anyone recommend using a top deck with the allow chassis?
The track is low grip and no additive is allowed. I've run the carbon lower deck on it before with good results, but the increased flex of the alloy chassis means I'm trying that this weekend.
I run the RFG, 500cst in the 2.1 dampers with soft springs. Would anyone recommend using a top deck with the allow chassis?
#9233
Tech Apprentice
#9234
Tech Addict
I've been told that not having a FFG and the AM19's is holding my car back especially on the black carpet. Any truth to this? I know there's more in the car, just seeing if spending that much$$$ on just a couple of options is worth it...thanks all
#9235
Klingforth has used a regular A700L and L2 on carpet and won. I don't think it is holding you back, especially on carpet.
The FFG probably makes a bigger difference running mod on low traction asphalt.
The FFG probably makes a bigger difference running mod on low traction asphalt.
#9236
My personal opinion is that the FFG is a good upgrade, but yes, Klingforth has been successful with the L cars. They are competitive either way really. You do have some options - if you're interested in trying an FFG, one possibility is find a used EVO here in the classifieds. You can transfer the parts to your L car and have a bunch of spares left. Used A700's have been selling for decent prices.
#9237
Tech Addict
I appreciate the input guys
#9238
Tech Apprentice
#9240
Great weekend at Tamiya
Howdy my fellow Awesomatixians. Had a chance to do some testing at the Tamiya USA track over the weekend, and wanted to share my findings. I'm going to be running 17.5 at the Reedy TC race being held at Tamiya in May, and I have been unsure which car I want to run; shaft or belt? So I setup both cars with near identical electronics and setup. Both cars running Reedy ESCs with two Team Powers motors set to produce similar numbers on an analyzer with identical FDR. I ran the same body, tires, and battery for all runs. Both cars were completely rebuilt with new bearings and fresh grease/oil, and both weighed in at 1390 race-ready (weight added to both, and balanced with a 4 corner scale) sporting carbon chassis.
I drove both cars using the same line, but at the end of it all the A700 was able to pull off .2 faster lap time, with .1 faster average time over a 7 minute practice run. Throughout the weekend my average lap times were within a tenth or two of my fast lap, so both cars were extremely consistent.
Both cars were stuck to the track (the track was incredible on Saturday; perfect conditions and high grip all day) but the A800 was noticeably easier to drive and seemed impossible to get out of whack. This would be the car to drive if I was super nervous about making a mistake and just wanted something easier to drive and completely predictable.
On the A700 if you really irresponsibly hammered the throttle at the wrong time the rear end would step out, but this seemed like an acceptable trade off for how noticeably quicker it was accelerating out of turns with proper throttle application. I didn't have either motor dialed for optimum performance, I just wanted them to run as similar as possible, and even with the same FDR the A700 was able to hang better with other cars in the straight. Even though the A700 felt quicker, it came off the track 10-15 degrees (F) cooler than the 800.
So, while I couldn't love my A800 more in mod, the good old A700 is still my choice for asphalt stock racing.
Here's a link to my setup
Edit: One final thought as I re-read my post was "of course the shaft car would do ok with an underpowered motor", so I just wanted to point out that even after dropping in the properly tuned motor I plan to run at Reedy the A700 had no on throttle traction issues whatsoever (and I lowered my fast lap another .4)
I drove both cars using the same line, but at the end of it all the A700 was able to pull off .2 faster lap time, with .1 faster average time over a 7 minute practice run. Throughout the weekend my average lap times were within a tenth or two of my fast lap, so both cars were extremely consistent.
Both cars were stuck to the track (the track was incredible on Saturday; perfect conditions and high grip all day) but the A800 was noticeably easier to drive and seemed impossible to get out of whack. This would be the car to drive if I was super nervous about making a mistake and just wanted something easier to drive and completely predictable.
On the A700 if you really irresponsibly hammered the throttle at the wrong time the rear end would step out, but this seemed like an acceptable trade off for how noticeably quicker it was accelerating out of turns with proper throttle application. I didn't have either motor dialed for optimum performance, I just wanted them to run as similar as possible, and even with the same FDR the A700 was able to hang better with other cars in the straight. Even though the A700 felt quicker, it came off the track 10-15 degrees (F) cooler than the 800.
So, while I couldn't love my A800 more in mod, the good old A700 is still my choice for asphalt stock racing.
Here's a link to my setup
Edit: One final thought as I re-read my post was "of course the shaft car would do ok with an underpowered motor", so I just wanted to point out that even after dropping in the properly tuned motor I plan to run at Reedy the A700 had no on throttle traction issues whatsoever (and I lowered my fast lap another .4)
Last edited by WesRaven; 04-25-2016 at 07:46 PM.