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06-23-2016, 12:30 PM
06-23-2016, 12:32 PM
For servos I would reccomend
Xpert pi-3431
Also affordable and extremely smooth. Huge upgrade over the savox 1251
06-24-2016, 01:51 AM
Tech Adept
How is the Xpert pi-3431 better?
It is more expensive from what I can see but the same speed.
I'd say the Savox 1252 is the best choice, cheap, great performance, fast & good availability on the spare gear sets/case sets.
06-24-2016, 07:16 AM
The xpert servo is extremely smooth. When I upgraded from savox to xpert it was like a whole new connected feeling to the car. That being said I haven't tried savox bls servos. But imo the 1251 and 1252 suck.
Last edited by AlexPate; 06-24-2016 at 08:25 AM.
06-24-2016, 07:52 AM
Thx for info, I have a futaba 3pk, will this servo work with my radio? (Being that the servo is digital)
06-24-2016, 08:25 AM
06-24-2016, 08:53 AM
Tech Adept
A servo is also either brushless or coreless, but it being digital does not mean it's not brushless. It being analog or digital only refers to how the pulses are sent to the servo motor, where a digital servo is faster (more pulses).
Both the xpert servo (from what I gather, I don't know the brand) & the Savox servo's are digital.
A brushless servo wil last a bit longer, but you'll most likely replace way before it will ever fail anyway, so that's not really a point on which you'll want to grade a servo.
Honestly, as long as the servo has a speed somewhere faster than 0.09 or something, you most probably won't notice the difference. Don't forgot you have a ~0.5s perception processing time, there's simply a limit to how much use there is to a servo being faster as your hand/eye coördination is simply the limit.
A Savox 1252MG is about €52/$57 and with the speed it has there's, in my experience, not going to be more difference in a faster servo.
Btw, replacing a used servo with a brand new one will also feel different of course, the only real comparison would be with 2 brand new servo's
You might have had the exact same feeling if you put in a brand new servo of any other brand.
06-24-2016, 08:57 AM
I don't have any experience with the Xpert brand of servo's, but the Savox's I have (in my 1/12 scale and my TC6.1) are very good.
I definitely think you get what you pay for, and I would prefer a brushless when possible - but I am also cheap. Not frugal - cheap, and sometimes that bites me in the butt.
I definitely think you get what you pay for, and I would prefer a brushless when possible - but I am also cheap. Not frugal - cheap, and sometimes that bites me in the butt.
06-24-2016, 08:57 AM
I think you got it mixed up, (not that I'm an expert on the matter, so correct me if I'm wrong) a servo can be digital or analog, not digital vs brushless. Those two are not opposites.
A servo is also either brushless or coreless, but it being digital does not mean it's not brushless. It being analog or digital only refers to how the pulses are sent to the servo motor, where a digital servo is faster (more pulses).
Both the xpert servo (from what I gather, I don't know the brand) & the Savox servo's are digital.
A brushless servo wil last a bit longer, but you'll most likely replace way before it will ever fail anyway, so that's not really a point on which you'll want to grade a servo.
Honestly, as long as the servo has a speed somewhere faster than 0.09 or something, you most probably won't notice the difference. Don't forgot you have a ~0.5s perception processing time, there's simply a limit to how much use there is to a servo being faster as your hand/eye coördination is simply the limit.
A Savox 1252MG is about €52/$57 and with the speed it has there's, in my experience, not going to be more difference in a faster servo.
Btw, replacing a used servo with a brand new one will also feel different of course, the only real comparison would be with 2 brand new servo's You might have had the exact same feeling if you put in a brand new servo of any other brand.
A servo is also either brushless or coreless, but it being digital does not mean it's not brushless. It being analog or digital only refers to how the pulses are sent to the servo motor, where a digital servo is faster (more pulses).
Both the xpert servo (from what I gather, I don't know the brand) & the Savox servo's are digital.
A brushless servo wil last a bit longer, but you'll most likely replace way before it will ever fail anyway, so that's not really a point on which you'll want to grade a servo.
Honestly, as long as the servo has a speed somewhere faster than 0.09 or something, you most probably won't notice the difference. Don't forgot you have a ~0.5s perception processing time, there's simply a limit to how much use there is to a servo being faster as your hand/eye coördination is simply the limit.
A Savox 1252MG is about €52/$57 and with the speed it has there's, in my experience, not going to be more difference in a faster servo.
Btw, replacing a used servo with a brand new one will also feel different of course, the only real comparison would be with 2 brand new servo's
You might have had the exact same feeling if you put in a brand new servo of any other brand.This is the way I see it. The xpert is a newer brushless servo. Extremely smooth. The savox 1251 1252 are more than 5 years old and coreless
The advances in technology have cause the servos to become smoother in operation. I'm sure the savox brushless servo is smoother as well but I would take the xpert over the savox any day of the week.
if you want to compare prices I think you would have to compare xpert 3431 and savox 2263
The savox being a couple bucks more
06-24-2016, 08:58 AM
My apologies, I didn't mean to imply the xpert wasn't digital.
This is the way I see it. The xpert is a newer brushless servo. Extremely smooth. The savox 1251 1252 are more than 5 years old and coreless
The advances in technology have cause the servos to become smoother in operation. I'm sure the savox brushless servo is smoother as well but I would take the xpert over the savox any day of the week.
if you want to compare prices I think you would have to compare xpert 3431 and savox 2263
The savox being a couple bucks more
This is the way I see it. The xpert is a newer brushless servo. Extremely smooth. The savox 1251 1252 are more than 5 years old and coreless
The advances in technology have cause the servos to become smoother in operation. I'm sure the savox brushless servo is smoother as well but I would take the xpert over the savox any day of the week.
if you want to compare prices I think you would have to compare xpert 3431 and savox 2263
The savox being a couple bucks more
06-24-2016, 09:00 AM
I don't have any experience with the Xpert brand of servo's, but the Savox's I have (in my 1/12 scale and my TC6.1) are very good.
I definitely think you get what you pay for, and I would prefer a brushless when possible - but I am also cheap. Not frugal - cheap, and sometimes that bites me in the butt.
I definitely think you get what you pay for, and I would prefer a brushless when possible - but I am also cheap. Not frugal - cheap, and sometimes that bites me in the butt.
One of our local mod drivers loves them.
06-24-2016, 09:19 AM
Actually, I can't even remember if it was a spektrum now or not. . . anyway, it was a brushless and it's fantastic. Quiet and smooth. My Savox servo's are ok, but they are not what I would call quiet.
06-24-2016, 09:40 AM
I have Savox, KO and Xpert. The Savox are my backup.
06-25-2016, 03:27 AM
Tech Adept
I bought a brushless spektrum servo for my F1, can't remember the model# but it was like $135 and it's awesome compared to my two savox servo's. And honestly, I should have bought a better one spending that kind of money.
Actually, I can't even remember if it was a spektrum now or not. . . anyway, it was a brushless and it's fantastic. Quiet and smooth. My Savox servo's are ok, but they are not what I would call quiet.
Actually, I can't even remember if it was a spektrum now or not. . . anyway, it was a brushless and it's fantastic. Quiet and smooth. My Savox servo's are ok, but they are not what I would call quiet.
Noise making little thing is what they are. Sanwa's are also great, but a tad more expensive.
07-04-2016, 11:47 PM
Well... the first ever held EFRA European Championship is in the book...
It was held at the luxurious Hudy facility.
Congratulation to all the drivers and to Xray to win the first title, but as Fenix owner can't be happier.
1 Fenix Mistral in the A-main
4 Fenix DFV21.5 motors were in the A main
1 Fenix Mistral in the B-main
1 Fenix DFV21.5 motors was in the B main
It was held at the luxurious Hudy facility.
Congratulation to all the drivers and to Xray to win the first title, but as Fenix owner can't be happier.
1 Fenix Mistral in the A-main
4 Fenix DFV21.5 motors were in the A main
1 Fenix Mistral in the B-main
1 Fenix DFV21.5 motors was in the B main
Last edited by Giorgio; 07-05-2016 at 11:22 PM.