2898Likes1/10 R/C F1's...Pics, Discussions, Whatever...
05-18-2013, 09:24 PM
#8401
Speaking of tire testing...let's go beat on the twitching, nearly dead horse for a bit. I really don't have any skins in this game because I run F1 for fun and like to share whatever cool things we find.
Despite snide comments and remarks, I'm actually pretty cool with information that is accurate and stand by my belief that the tires are of the same compound. Contrary to being told that I "argue about nothing and for no reason", I really don't have time for that. I was simply sharing my experience and insight with the issue being discussed.
PIT/TCS rear tire testing:
85* ambient temperature
75% humidity
112* track temp
unprepped asphalt
Each tire was coated with SWEEP tire conditioner at the same time and left uncovered all night.
Each set was run hard for exactly 10 minutes on fresh packs
PIT 0572
Tamiya TCS
Just like i stated in the beginning of this whole thing the tires are different, the PIT's have this strange wavy texture to them that was not there in the beginning and the center stripe is still there. The TCS tires have a slightly grainy texture and the stripe is almost gone indicating that they are in fact softer than the hard 572. So in conclusion I think it is safe to say that the compounds are NOT the same. I rest my case
85* ambient temperature
75% humidity
112* track temp
unprepped asphalt
Each tire was coated with SWEEP tire conditioner at the same time and left uncovered all night.
Each set was run hard for exactly 10 minutes on fresh packs
PIT 0572
Tamiya TCS
Just like i stated in the beginning of this whole thing the tires are different, the PIT's have this strange wavy texture to them that was not there in the beginning and the center stripe is still there. The TCS tires have a slightly grainy texture and the stripe is almost gone indicating that they are in fact softer than the hard 572. So in conclusion I think it is safe to say that the compounds are NOT the same. I rest my case
Sorry but they are not the same, TCS do not and will not wave like that( you probably had 572's on when you saw the wave). If you can make them do it lets see a pic! If it was track conditions then why were they different today? I just proved that under identical situations and at the same time they are different, just as i said from the beginning You dont even make sense to be honest, if it depended on track conditions and driven at the same time then what happened today?
You dont even make sense to be honest, if it depended on track conditions and driven at the same time then what happened today?Just because your sisters, uncles best friend that works at Tamiya say so means nothing!! Maybe PIT pulled a fast one on Tamiya I have shown you proof that they are not and you have only attempted to argue by keyboard with ZERO proof except hearsay!! Post some pics, show some proof! By all means prove me wrong. I have gone out of my way and conducted what i believe is about as accurate as i can do with out and actual material sample that they are not the same. If you choose not to believe than so be it but if so you are simply blind or your computer screen needs cleaning
I have shown you proof that they are not and you have only attempted to argue by keyboard with ZERO proof except hearsay!! Post some pics, show some proof! By all means prove me wrong. I have gone out of my way and conducted what i believe is about as accurate as i can do with out and actual material sample that they are not the same. If you choose not to believe than so be it but if so you are simply blind or your computer screen needs cleaningI simply provided a correction.
Dont hate on me because you didnt notice the difference in the first place, thats a you problem not a we problem
The fastest lap and track record here at our last UF1 race was set on pits so whats your point exactly???
I never said the TCS were bad I just said they were different, clear off the fog on your reading glasses and get your facts straight!
The fastest lap and track record here at our last UF1 race was set on pits so whats your point exactly???
I never said the TCS were bad I just said they were different, clear off the fog on your reading glasses and get your facts straight!
I can go on, but if you'd like to take this discussion offline and in PM, I'm fine with that.
Pictures speak a thousand words...
New TCS tires
After a scrub in run
Another set scrubbed in
Wavy texture
In the end we're all winners since the folks at Tamiya took the time to work with Pit to get us an awesome TCS tire.
05-18-2013, 11:09 PM
#8402
05-18-2013, 11:19 PM
#8403
This may be piling on but here's some new TCS tires from today........
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F...518_160007.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2...518_160021.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-F...518_160007.jpg
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2...518_160021.jpg
05-19-2013, 12:56 AM
#8404
Are there any offset rims for the F104, like the Exotek ones, but for the Tamiya foam donuts? Or is it possible to glue the donuts on the Exotek offset wheels? I would love to have my car a little wider.
05-19-2013, 01:51 AM
#8405
No. You will need the R Sector wide conversion kit.
05-19-2013, 02:19 AM
#8406
Thank you 
05-19-2013, 03:14 AM
#8407
Gee wiz, I'd like to thank Tamiya USA and the track crew for working so hard to provide us with this five star race facility. You guys have done it again. The track is totally and awesome. The traction is the best its ever been. Brian, Fred and to the of rest the Tamiya family you guys are the shit. Period! Oops! Sorry kids I meant the s*@%. 
05-19-2013, 03:30 AM
#8408
Maybe put Pit tires on left side, TCS tires on right side, run the car and see if they are same or different? 
05-19-2013, 06:59 AM
#8409
kyosho plazma
Here is the new kyosho plazma kit. It was late and i grabbed the wrong red can of paint so i just couldnt put the ferrari decals on, so i went with a kyosho livery, until i purchase another body set. I converted the front end to fit the f104 front, im pretty impressed with how this car handles, have not run it with the 200mm front yet.
05-19-2013, 10:50 AM
#8411
Is that possible? Is the outside diameter of foam and shimizu rubber wheels the same?
05-19-2013, 11:25 AM
#8412
Tech Apprentice
05-19-2013, 11:22 PM
#8414
Just curious, I have the Tamiya f60 standard kit right. If i was to buy this exotek upgrade kit would i just be able to swap over the parts i have on that to this. The reason i ask is of the floating rear of the car as compared to the standard flat deck.
05-20-2013, 04:56 AM
#8415
Here is the new kyosho plazma kit. It was late and i grabbed the wrong red can of paint so i just couldnt put the ferrari decals on, so i went with a kyosho livery, until i purchase another body set. I converted the front end to fit the f104 front, im pretty impressed with how this car handles, have not run it with the 200mm front yet.
Looks like you are having fun with it, I have the F2012 bodies in stock, so let me know when you are ready. Working on the schedule for the next series now.