Tekin RS ESC sensored
09-02-2008, 08:42 PM
#916
Donny Lia takes the highly contested 1/12 scale 17.5 handout class win at the IIC race in Vegas!
These were non adjustable handout Speed Passion motors. Donny used an Rs esc and Hotwire to get the win! Proving that when you need all the power you can get to your motor, Tekin has you covered!
Way to go Donny!
These were non adjustable handout Speed Passion motors. Donny used an Rs esc and Hotwire to get the win! Proving that when you need all the power you can get to your motor, Tekin has you covered!
Way to go Donny!
09-02-2008, 09:33 PM
#917
In on-road mod, im almost positive the default timing in hotwire is useless. Also note that in hotwire the suggested timing for 4.5 and 5.5 are back to front.
Most of the team guys are off-roaders so they dont usually want lots of power in their mod motors. Further to this with 5 cell, having less voltage, the motor needs to be pushed harder in any case.
And as suggested a fan blowing over the posts is an absolute must, they also recommend you run a second capacitor on the esc. I had a capacitor blow on my R1 but im off the opinion it blew because of heat as opposed to being a capacity problem (but i dont know really know anything about electronics).
Most of the team guys are off-roaders so they dont usually want lots of power in their mod motors. Further to this with 5 cell, having less voltage, the motor needs to be pushed harder in any case.
And as suggested a fan blowing over the posts is an absolute must, they also recommend you run a second capacitor on the esc. I had a capacitor blow on my R1 but im off the opinion it blew because of heat as opposed to being a capacity problem (but i dont know really know anything about electronics).
09-03-2008, 02:18 AM
#918
09-03-2008, 05:26 AM
#919
Tech Regular
3 cell lipo and 13.5 motor
I run a 1/12 pan car (12r5) using 3 cell lipo and 13.5 Speedpassion brushless. With the lightweight 1500 mah lipo, the car is so agile and aggresive. Great works machine for slaying nitro cars. It's really fast on straight line and never had any problem with motor getting more than just "warm".
I right away know that I havent pushed to the limit in term of motor and ESC. Since I just bought a hotwire, what would be the correct timing for me to start with.
Also for the Tekin tech people, can you provide some sort recommended timing and gear for 9.5, 10.5,11.5, 13.5, etc.
I right away know that I havent pushed to the limit in term of motor and ESC. Since I just bought a hotwire, what would be the correct timing for me to start with.
Also for the Tekin tech people, can you provide some sort recommended timing and gear for 9.5, 10.5,11.5, 13.5, etc.
09-03-2008, 09:57 AM
#920
For me it the timing is all dependent on what I'm looking for out of the motor.
In general on 13.5's and higher(17.5 etc) higher timing rewards more power. However under heavier loads heat must be watched. A 1/12 scale is light especially with a 3s lipo! I'm sure you could run higher timing and simply get more over all power.
When you get into the modifieds like say an 6.5 and lower less timing is needed because of the extra power. I run dual mode with these because I like the "feel" better not just the power. If I need more power I grab a different motor(most of the time). I run my motor timing in dual mode around 40-60 depending on heat, feel, gearing,etc.
Now for TC, most of our mod TC drivers are still running dual mode but with lower timing say 40. 5 cell is different due to the lower voltages. That's when more timing will be needed to maximize power at that level. We don't have a ton of TC guys running 5 cell here in the states. I would recomend starrting around 80 or so and watch your motor temps!
For mod TC with low turn motors like a 4T or 3.5 etc running a second cap helps with heat as well as a fan blowing on the solder posts. There is a special case that is being developed that will have a heatsink of sorts. It's still in development at this point. But this will be an option/upgrade for the TC guys to get rid of heat. I've yet to get my 4wd offroad mod hotter then 6 leds strapped with a 5.5 on high traction. Some of our UK buddies have seen 7 at times but only on the carpet/grass tracks with a lot of switch backs.
In general on 13.5's and higher(17.5 etc) higher timing rewards more power. However under heavier loads heat must be watched. A 1/12 scale is light especially with a 3s lipo! I'm sure you could run higher timing and simply get more over all power.
When you get into the modifieds like say an 6.5 and lower less timing is needed because of the extra power. I run dual mode with these because I like the "feel" better not just the power. If I need more power I grab a different motor(most of the time). I run my motor timing in dual mode around 40-60 depending on heat, feel, gearing,etc.
Now for TC, most of our mod TC drivers are still running dual mode but with lower timing say 40. 5 cell is different due to the lower voltages. That's when more timing will be needed to maximize power at that level. We don't have a ton of TC guys running 5 cell here in the states. I would recomend starrting around 80 or so and watch your motor temps!
For mod TC with low turn motors like a 4T or 3.5 etc running a second cap helps with heat as well as a fan blowing on the solder posts. There is a special case that is being developed that will have a heatsink of sorts. It's still in development at this point. But this will be an option/upgrade for the TC guys to get rid of heat. I've yet to get my 4wd offroad mod hotter then 6 leds strapped with a 5.5 on high traction. Some of our UK buddies have seen 7 at times but only on the carpet/grass tracks with a lot of switch backs.
09-03-2008, 10:46 AM
#921
For me it the timing is all dependent on what I'm looking for out of the motor.
In general on 13.5's and higher(17.5 etc) higher timing rewards more power. However under heavier loads heat must be watched. A 1/12 scale is light especially with a 3s lipo! I'm sure you could run higher timing and simply get more over all power.
When you get into the modifieds like say an 6.5 and lower less timing is needed because of the extra power. I run dual mode with these because I like the "feel" better not just the power. If I need more power I grab a different motor(most of the time). I run my motor timing in dual mode around 40-60 depending on heat, feel, gearing,etc.
Now for TC, most of our mod TC drivers are still running dual mode but with lower timing say 40. 5 cell is different due to the lower voltages. That's when more timing will be needed to maximize power at that level. We don't have a ton of TC guys running 5 cell here in the states. I would recomend starrting around 80 or so and watch your motor temps!
For mod TC with low turn motors like a 4T or 3.5 etc running a second cap helps with heat as well as a fan blowing on the solder posts. There is a special case that is being developed that will have a heatsink of sorts. It's still in development at this point. But this will be an option/upgrade for the TC guys to get rid of heat. I've yet to get my 4wd offroad mod hotter then 6 leds strapped with a 5.5 on high traction. Some of our UK buddies have seen 7 at times but only on the carpet/grass tracks with a lot of switch backs.
In general on 13.5's and higher(17.5 etc) higher timing rewards more power. However under heavier loads heat must be watched. A 1/12 scale is light especially with a 3s lipo! I'm sure you could run higher timing and simply get more over all power.
When you get into the modifieds like say an 6.5 and lower less timing is needed because of the extra power. I run dual mode with these because I like the "feel" better not just the power. If I need more power I grab a different motor(most of the time). I run my motor timing in dual mode around 40-60 depending on heat, feel, gearing,etc.
Now for TC, most of our mod TC drivers are still running dual mode but with lower timing say 40. 5 cell is different due to the lower voltages. That's when more timing will be needed to maximize power at that level. We don't have a ton of TC guys running 5 cell here in the states. I would recomend starrting around 80 or so and watch your motor temps!
For mod TC with low turn motors like a 4T or 3.5 etc running a second cap helps with heat as well as a fan blowing on the solder posts. There is a special case that is being developed that will have a heatsink of sorts. It's still in development at this point. But this will be an option/upgrade for the TC guys to get rid of heat. I've yet to get my 4wd offroad mod hotter then 6 leds strapped with a 5.5 on high traction. Some of our UK buddies have seen 7 at times but only on the carpet/grass tracks with a lot of switch backs.
09-03-2008, 02:20 PM
#923
09-03-2008, 02:26 PM
#924
09-03-2008, 02:26 PM
#925
If you do, the simple solution is to add the second cap. For the rest of the customers, the smaller cap works with no issues with a lot of space saving for not having to run a cap that's larger then what is needed for their application.
09-03-2008, 04:48 PM
#926
09-03-2008, 04:50 PM
#927
tt3520
09-03-2008, 04:51 PM
#928
TT3520
09-03-2008, 05:50 PM
#929
Who has the capacitors in stock? I could use a few myself.
09-03-2008, 05:54 PM
#930
Pretty sure Ampdraw had some