Tekin RS ESC sensored
11-22-2010, 04:07 PM
If you're using a 1s application the battery/booster that's supplying voltage to the radio system it MUST put out enough battery power. I've seen a lot of cheap boosters supply only enough power for a few minutes of operation.
If the RS/RS Pro operates properly on a 2s battery supply you need to look at the booster/rx pack.
Push control is only active while in the nuetral position. If you feel the car is "stalling" or dropping acceleration while slightly off power You're likely over timed or boosted up too much too soon.
I'd like to see your start and end rpms more like 5k start and 20k end.
If the RS/RS Pro operates properly on a 2s battery supply you need to look at the booster/rx pack.
Push control is only active while in the nuetral position. If you feel the car is "stalling" or dropping acceleration while slightly off power You're likely over timed or boosted up too much too soon.
I'd like to see your start and end rpms more like 5k start and 20k end.
11-22-2010, 07:05 PM
Randy, My set up is around 2200 on the start up and it ends on 5000ish, question is would that be putting too much on the motor? our track is really short and has a lot of turns.
Tnx
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11-22-2010, 07:34 PM
11-22-2010, 07:38 PM
Got a weird thing happening with my setup and can't pinpoint it, so time to ask the forum for some advice.
I'm finding that when you roll off the trigger from 100% to say 90% for a long sweeper the car slows up much more, almost feels like it's applying a drag brake it's that bad. I could of course just cook the tires and keep into it, but....
Cyclone TC, Speedpassion V2 17.5t, 212 FW, FDR 6.76
Boost 50
Start 4600
End 12000
Turbo 12
Delay 0.2
Ramp 2.0
NW 10
Push 30!
Have even nudged the throttle trim slightly biased to throttle.
I can only "assume" that without the extra 12 deg of timing when you're off WOT it is enough to loose the big rpm's...ideas anyone?
Last resort is redo my config, bring the FDR back toward say 4ish and try dropping the turbo...
I'm finding that when you roll off the trigger from 100% to say 90% for a long sweeper the car slows up much more, almost feels like it's applying a drag brake it's that bad. I could of course just cook the tires and keep into it, but....
Cyclone TC, Speedpassion V2 17.5t, 212 FW, FDR 6.76
Boost 50
Start 4600
End 12000
Turbo 12
Delay 0.2
Ramp 2.0
NW 10
Push 30!
Have even nudged the throttle trim slightly biased to throttle.
I can only "assume" that without the extra 12 deg of timing when you're off WOT it is enough to loose the big rpm's...ideas anyone?
Last resort is redo my config, bring the FDR back toward say 4ish and try dropping the turbo...
11-22-2010, 07:39 PM
11-22-2010, 07:47 PM
If it's TC you're WAY WAY WAY over boosted too soon.
Tc's are generally turning around 3k at the lowest and up into the high 20's to low 30's thousands in rpms on the track regardless of the size. Remember that we GEAR down for smaller tracks. This means the power band and rpm's often remain in the same place.
11-22-2010, 08:46 PM
Please tell me this is 1/12 or WGT.
If it's TC you're WAY WAY WAY over boosted too soon.
Tc's are generally turning around 3k at the lowest and up into the high 20's to low 30's thousands in rpms on the track regardless of the size. Remember that we GEAR down for smaller tracks. This means the power band and rpm's often remain in the same place.
If it's TC you're WAY WAY WAY over boosted too soon.
Tc's are generally turning around 3k at the lowest and up into the high 20's to low 30's thousands in rpms on the track regardless of the size. Remember that we GEAR down for smaller tracks. This means the power band and rpm's often remain in the same place.
11-22-2010, 09:10 PM
Push control is only active while in the nuetral position. If you feel the car is "stalling" or dropping acceleration while slightly off power You're likely over timed or boosted up too much too soon.
I'd like to see your start and end rpms more like 5k start and 20k end.
I'd like to see your start and end rpms more like 5k start and 20k end.
5 to 20K is what I used to great effect with the 10.5t, feels a little lack lustre with the 17.5 though. Don't get me wrong, the thing is plenty quick enough, comes off 65 - 70c and doesn't fade much...
11-22-2010, 09:40 PM
Starting setup for Trinity Duo 3 17.5? I'm going to try Hara's setup from the 2010 IIC any thoughts?
11-22-2010, 09:42 PM
Please tell me this is 1/12 or WGT.
If it's TC you're WAY WAY WAY over boosted too soon.
Tc's are generally turning around 3k at the lowest and up into the high 20's to low 30's thousands in rpms on the track regardless of the size. Remember that we GEAR down for smaller tracks. This means the power band and rpm's often remain in the same place.
If it's TC you're WAY WAY WAY over boosted too soon.
Tc's are generally turning around 3k at the lowest and up into the high 20's to low 30's thousands in rpms on the track regardless of the size. Remember that we GEAR down for smaller tracks. This means the power band and rpm's often remain in the same place.
Am i doing something wrong.
11-22-2010, 09:59 PM
What's your minimum throttle and brake set at?
Is there a BIG change in acceleration when turbo comes in? In my setups, if I can get turbo to come in almost seamlessly the car is much easier to drive, and therefore quicker.
I would try adjusting only your RPM range, 14k end, and 6k start and see if the problem is still there at part-lift throttle.
Is there a BIG change in acceleration when turbo comes in? In my setups, if I can get turbo to come in almost seamlessly the car is much easier to drive, and therefore quicker.
I would try adjusting only your RPM range, 14k end, and 6k start and see if the problem is still there at part-lift throttle.
11-22-2010, 10:23 PM
None of the team setups on the website show an end rpm anywhere near 5k. Take a closer look.
Try 3 start and 15 end. That's a punchier setup than 5 to 20.
Try 3 start and 15 end. That's a punchier setup than 5 to 20.
11-22-2010, 11:52 PM
Team Tekin Wins 2010 Australian Nationals
Stock 17.5
TQ
1st
2nd
3rd
Super Stock 10.5
TQ
1st
(Not sure about the rest)
Stock 17.5
TQ
1st
2nd
3rd
Super Stock 10.5
TQ
1st
(Not sure about the rest)
11-23-2010, 12:28 AM
) I'm running 4,608 start and 12,009 end rpm to be exact...Running 15 min throttle and 15 min brake.
It's literally like drag brake, you can even hear the tires chirp if you're at the limit in the bend and need to back off a little...
The turbo is seamless, it just pulls from the get go and gets the mod like whine when up to max speed, a few observers have confused it for a lower turn motor
The 2.0 ramp seems to make the transition much smoother from boost to turbo and the 0.2 delay means that it starts early enough to actually add it in time...as I said, not really much different to the Team Guys setup, highly recommended for anybody looking for a great 17.5 setup.I'll try the wider rpm range, might even try swapping out the motor, you never know...
11-23-2010, 01:11 AM
Think YOU must have misread (thought I had mistyped for a sec...) I'm running 4,608 start and 12,009 end rpm to be exact...
Running 15 min throttle and 15 min brake.
It's literally like drag brake, you can even hear the tires chirp if you're at the limit in the bend and need to back off a little...
The turbo is seamless, it just pulls from the get go and gets the mod like whine when up to max speed, a few observers have confused it for a lower turn motor The 2.0 ramp seems to make the transition much smoother from boost to turbo and the 0.2 delay means that it starts early enough to actually add it in time...as I said, not really much different to the Team Guys setup, highly recommended for anybody looking for a great 17.5 setup.
I'll try the wider rpm range, might even try swapping out the motor, you never know...
) I'm running 4,608 start and 12,009 end rpm to be exact...Running 15 min throttle and 15 min brake.
It's literally like drag brake, you can even hear the tires chirp if you're at the limit in the bend and need to back off a little...
The turbo is seamless, it just pulls from the get go and gets the mod like whine when up to max speed, a few observers have confused it for a lower turn motor
The 2.0 ramp seems to make the transition much smoother from boost to turbo and the 0.2 delay means that it starts early enough to actually add it in time...as I said, not really much different to the Team Guys setup, highly recommended for anybody looking for a great 17.5 setup.I'll try the wider rpm range, might even try swapping out the motor, you never know...
For your setup, your end rpm seems a little low, but that wouldn't cause the problem you are having. Is your drivetrain completely free? If it is, try a high amount of minimum throttle, 20 or above. Push won't make any difference. It only has an effect at neutral.
cheetae, as Randy says, your rpm range is way out for a TC, it's even a little out for a 17.5 12th! You really need to be in the range of 5000-20000. The way you have it now you are getting practically instant full timing.
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