I've never heard of running without the center support. Have you tried it yet?

Yeah, a few guys have suggested it for rubber tires on pavement. You can get a little more traction because the chassis is very stiff, especially if you are using the thicker top plate.

You can also remove the 2 stand offs that connect the chassis and upper deck to get more flex.

i never used the center brace , that was the first thing that i took of my car:nod:

I like the antenna mount. I'm good for two of them.

Top Speed of E4
 

Dear Socko, AreCee, rezenclowd3 and BritishMenace

RE: <<I am new to the E4 and I can not get the required top speed out of this car.>>

The car was the best at our old technical track but seems to slow on our new fast flowing track.

Anyway, I will join the rest of my family running a Mi3 for the time being.


Anyone in AUS interested giving my E4 a new home?


Regards, Rambolin

Not sure what you mean by "required top speed" but the E4 is as fast as anything else out there with the proper gearing, motor and battery.

Just gear it for the speed you want and as long as the motor doesn't melt (too hot) then you should be in the ball park unless your gearing is way off (undergeared).

My car was plenty fast .. even for a 13.5,, lol

E4 Speed
 

Maybe I am doing something wrong - I geared it up and up to the point where lap times would come down again. I am running 17.5. Was using a Mi3 this Sunday and did win all qualifiers and races. E4 loses 1 sec per lap. I do not understand this. I do run the standard belts however but are hesitating to put more money in...

Regards, Rambolin

There are alot of factors on this also, consistent lap times and trying to hit the same line everytime. Try soaking the belts in WD40 overnight to help loosen them up I did this and it helped alot. I practically run my side belt as loose as I can . I am runnning this car right now box stock with the factory setup and love it alot, biggest issue I have had is finding proper gearing for my 17.5 motor and the way that I drive I am going to start at 4.0 FDR.

Rambolin you've got my PM

:nod:

Are you sure the actually speed is slower? Maybe you are just running better times with your Mi3 because you are more familiar with the car, better setup etc…

Rambolin,

Don't be afraid to run the belts really loose. You'll know they're too loose if they skip under braking. I took my side belt tensioner off completely. The side belt is fine without it.

Socko

i run the belt tensioner and its quite snug .. but the 17.5 is another issue.
remember the car comes with what i would call an ashphault set up.. pretty soft. try stiffer springs.

E4 Top Speed
 

Thanks to all.

The car is the best in the corners and only lacks top speed. I will try the WD40 method for the belts.

I might give it a go in 10.5

The top one is our new track - very fast. For comparison, the one below is the old one and the lap times are very similar. The images are exactly the same scale!
http://mrnews.com.au/pictures/WaTracks.jpg

Regards, Rmbolin

Thinking about making the E4RS 2009 my next touring car. What spares or "hopups" are people running? Is it possible to get a E4RS and convert it to the 2009 version?

Rambolin,

I race an E4 up here in QLD and although I have only used it once in a competitive arena, I found the car just fine for pace. I must mention that I geared the car a little lower than most of the others as I found a little lack of pace coming out of the corners, but other than that the car is great. I was geared around 56mm rollout where as my competitors were all around 58mm rollout, this is in 17.5 stock. I placed 3rd at the Winter Cup and had not raced for over 5 months prior and that was with a different car, so for a 1st time outing I can only praise this car.

I haven't had a car corner so fast as this before and I found once your used to how fast you can turn in, the lag out of the corner is minimal as you make up your ground in the first 2 sections of the corner.

I plan on running this car next year for 09 and am positive about it's ability. I was looking to change chassis due to poor parts and support in SEQ, but the distributor assure's me this is not a concern, so at this point it looks good.

Cheers
Aaron

New belts on the RS'09 version
 

Hi,

I am running an E4RS in the UK, parts are getting pretty scarce here and although I have previously successfully ordered items from RC shopping, they denied my last order as they could not ship to the UK! I believe this is why Demon in the UK will not restock as it is too much hasstle.
Wolf Hobbies are now my best bet I guess, any other suggestions of retailers carrying RS parts?
RC Mushroom have a few but not very comprehensive, but I did find this

http://rc-mushroom.com/product_info....ducts_id=14615

It says that here is a change of belt material to PU? I would like to get my hands on some to try as soon as they are stocked.

Steve

Steve check out the Kfactory belts.
http://www.wolfhobbies.com/Kfactory_...ront_Belt.html

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I had a big problem at my last race which I never encountered before. TRACTION ROLL. My E4 was literally standing up on two wheels and diffing out in the turns. The track is carpet and is quite seasoned with compound along the line. Tires are CS27, front springs 1.6 rear springs 1.4 with 40wt oil all around. Ride height 5.5mm, droop 5 in front, 4 in rear. Camber -1, 0 toe in front 2.5 in rear. Tire additive in rear only, Jack the Gripper.

I could not get rid of the traction roll using softer springs; 1.3 front, 1.2 rear.

What was I doing wrong? Or what was I not doing?

Traction roll et?! OK.. try this .. examine your sidewalls on your tires . If they are sepperating u need to reglue them, I like to run more camber .. more like 3 in that car as tere is a lot of play in the hubs and bearings. i bet your roll center needs adjusting too.. thats one that ive just started adjusting . As for the springs.. you need to go stiffer not softer .. and try dopping fronts with way stiffer springs in front. like 50% stiffer and only a little bit stiffeer in the front. the car is set up very soft from the get go and need a 50/40 or 60/40 oil. let me know if that works for u bro! ;)

Hi all. I have a TM E4, the original version, and I have recently tried to fit a LiPo battery with little success. It is an intellect 3800. I see that the new cars have some modifications that seem to allow these to fit easier. The problems I have are:

- The original battery tray is scalloped in the middle creating a narrow spot that the case catches on.
- The battery case hits the rear bulkhead and will require some dremmelling.
- The original middle stiffener runs under the top deck and it does not allow the battery to fit.

Are there any "standard modifications" that make the LiPos fit, or can I buy the parts (battery tray, middle stiffener and rear bulkhead) from the newer cars and fit them to the older car?

Thanks for any advice!

I modified my E4 so I could use the same battery.
1. dremel those scallops from the battery tray.
2. dremel the rear top plate support.
3. dremel the bottom of the middle brace.
4. dremel the back side of the front lay shaft housing.

Once you clear the material from those parts the battery will slide in as if it were meant to be there.

I went one step further and drilled holes into the top deck just big enough to stick the banana battery connectors into the battery (only on the negative side and the positive should be clear).

The softer springs actually did help, but not enough. It will be a while before I get back to that track. Meanwhile I restored it back to where it works just fine at my home track.

E4 Top Speed
 

Dear Aaron

You are right, when we used the small twisty track the E4 was THE BEST CAR. Now on the superfast track things are different.



Dear AMGRacer

You need to add 6 spacers and you have the minus plug at 90 deg. From there on it will be obvious what to do. I used Team Orion 3800 and IP3800 Lipo with no problems. I also turned the steering mechanics upside down to maintain the steering geometry.
http://www.mrnews.com.au/pictures/E4_Shims.jpg
http://www.mrnews.com.au/pictures/E4_BattPlugs.jpg

Regards, Rambolin

E4
 

Dear all

I thank you all for the help you offered me while I had the E4.
It now has a new home in Victoria (AUS).

Regards, Rambolin

ok, do you know who you sold it to in victoria
I also race the E4 In victoria so was just interested to know who is now running it.

Victoria
 

Dear Hoggy

I sold it to Alex. Hope he can win a view races with it...

Regards, Rambolin

ok, i know Alex with me racing against him he wont win :P

Location location location.. who would have thought that the aluminum servo mounts would have made that much difference !?

For some time now we have been working on being THE resource for Team Magic products. In addition to selling product we also have invested heavily in sponsoring drivers, events as well as development of the cars and accessory products. One of the best ways to develop a car is to get a pro driver. As most of you know our first effort into this ended badly. To make certain that this NEVER happens again we are negotiating directly with drivers instead of having them deal with the manufacturer. For several months now we have been working with one driver with amazing skill as a driver and demonstrated extensive knowledge of setup and tuning for electric and nitro powered R/C cars. With multiple national titles he has proven himself to be a member of the top tier of drivers in the sport / hobby. Wolf Hobbies is pleased to welcome Dave Ehrlich to head our team of drivers. Residents of the Northwest US also know him as the one to beat at the local events. At the recent NWIC (series) race at Timezone II against a list of well-known competitors, he won Mod Foam, 13.5 Stock Rubber and World GT proving if its radio controlled he can win with it. Dave has agreed to be our tech spokesman for the forums and will be posting setup information. His hard work in developing the E4 will help us all be more competitive. Please help us welcome him aboard.

I've already heard good things about Dave and look forward to trying his setups on my E4 and G4+Evo. Welcome!

Great news. Where can i find e4rs 2009 parts. i tried wolf but they dont have.

FYI:

We send daily emails to TM asking for the new parts. We either get soon for an answer or no answer at all. This is SOP with TM and other manufacturers. They use up all the parts on kits and it takes a while to get replacement parts. If you email us we with your request we will notify you as soon as we get a firm date.

Thanks Wolf, will do

No problem

I don't like doing "stuff for sale" posts but just so everyone knows we do have some 009 cars being sent via airfreight. You would not believe how much it costs to send a case of cars by air so these will be limited in quantity and they will ship for free. However I will say that they will be priced at competitively against any source ($400.00) so if you are interested it is time to let us know and get in line. We will ask for a 50% deposit to secure your place in line.

Just got my Kfactory parts today and I installed them inplace of the original parts , but the side belt without the factory tensioner is quite snug. If I had left the tensioner in this thing could be played like a guitar. Any guesses???
Everything is positioned properly, or will I have to soak them like I did the factory belts.

katfish317 the belts are tight to begin with. You should run a couple of batteries and see if the belts loosen up. Most likley the will free up and you'll need the tensioner again.

Hey Dave any chance of you posting setups for your rubber tire or foam on capet? Are you going to be heading down to florida for the birds? If so see ya down there. Congrats on getting picked up. Thanks in advance