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liljohn1064 04-02-2009 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by rkhess (Post 5628434)
will the new front spool fit in the js? im sure it does but just want to make sure and does anyone have a good setup for E4js running T/A? i need indoor carpet and outdoor asphalt

Thanks in advance

The aluminum one way/solid axle does fit in the JS. I have the unit in both of mine as a one way. You'll need the out drives also.

John

rkhess 04-02-2009 11:47 AM

thanks again liljohn.....man im gonna owe you a case of beer before its all overwith

liljohn1064 04-02-2009 11:52 AM


Originally Posted by rkhess (Post 5631538)
thanks again liljohn.....man im gonna owe you a case of beer before its all overwith

:lol: The carbon shock towers work nice too.

liljohn1064 04-02-2009 12:22 PM

The JS is by far the best handling car I've driven for TA. Some day I will figure out how to free it up as much as needed, then look out.

cvccsi 04-02-2009 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by John St.Amant (Post 5631287)
Sorry to inform you but all that slop in my car is due to the bearing holes being too big for the bearings. The slop you are refering to is taken up once the wheel is bolted on. There has to be atleast .005" too much gap and the bearings float around in the uprights. Changing the axels will not fix my slop issue. Its the plastic, not the metal.

So I guess the solution would be the K-Factory aluminum front sterring block and the rear hub?

John St.Amant 04-02-2009 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by cvccsi (Post 5632073)
So I guess the solution would be the K-Factory aluminum front sterring block and the rear hub?

K factory seems to be the answer for most if not all the issues with the car .
I love that front carbon upper bumper K2109. ,,, and the alu. mid block.

WEEZY 04-02-2009 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by John St.Amant (Post 5631287)
Sorry to inform you but all that slop in my car is due to the bearing holes being too big for the bearings. The slop you are refering to is taken up once the wheel is bolted on. There has to be atleast .005" too much gap and the bearings float around in the uprights. Changing the axels will not fix my slop issue. Its the plastic, not the metal.

Sorry john i didnt put all the info. When i was at snowbirds with wolf he and dave were running the new proto type aluminum 0* rear hubs. They also were running the new axles. soi dont know if the k factory hubs solve it, but the ones wolf is making will take the slop out.

cvccsi 04-02-2009 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by John St.Amant (Post 5632496)
K factory seems to be the answer for most if not all the issues with the car .
I love that front carbon upper bumper K2109. ,,, and the alu. mid block.

No wonder you told me before "for a serious racer it requires a few extra parts. Expensive parts." :D

Tabushi 04-02-2009 08:00 PM

Im still deciding on what to get for 13.5 brushless racing on low budget, can you more or less put me on one side of Hot Bodies Cyclone S tub chassis v/s E4 JS tub chassis kits ?. Downhere in Chile we have a TM importer but he is 100% on nitro and if i go E4 i will go alone same thing on Cyclone S.

thanks,

Pat

i am cornholio 04-03-2009 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by WEEZY (Post 5632775)
Sorry john i didnt put all the info. When i was at snowbirds with wolf he and dave were running the new proto type aluminum 0* rear hubs. They also were running the new axles. soi dont know if the k factory hubs solve it, but the ones wolf is making will take the slop out.

so when exactly are these parts going to be available?? im waiting..are they going to be avail before reedy???

Wolf Hobbies 04-03-2009 10:52 AM

The axles and hubs have been an issue for some time. We have spoken with TM about the materials factor for a year now. To help everyone out we are stepping up to the plate.

The hole in the plastic hubs is not too big when the hubs are new. The issue is that the material "cold flows" This means that as the bearing is banged around the hole gets larger in at least one direction. We have checked many hubs on Optical comparators and CMMs to verify this. The simple solution is to glue the bearings into the bores. CA works the best but if you are doing this a day ahead of time you can also coat the bore with Loctite 242 or shoe goo. You need to put the adhesive in the bore before putting the bearing in or else you risk gluing the bearing into a solid. We have tested this many times and it works very well. It is also a way to salvage a hub that has become sloppy.

The reason for the new axles was not an issue of slop (the shims take care of that) but more importantly width. The intent was twofold. As it comes the nominal width of the E4 is 185mm. Adding shims under the wheels is one way to make the car wider but causes durability issues. (The reason why Barry lost a wheel in practice at IIC was that he had so many shims spacing the wheel out that there was no plastic covering the pin. Once he got up to speed the O ring couldn't retain the pin so the entire assembly came apart). The new axles come in Titanium for strength and 7075 Aluminum for economy and weight reduction (less than2 grams each). But the best part is that the drive hexes come in varying widths from -.25mm (for wide foam wheels at ROAR events) to +.75 (for Trans Am fronts to bring them out closer to 200mm) This will allow you to tune with front and rear track width and really balance the car. The other reason is that really hate "fussing" (not the word I really mean) with the O ring to take the axles apart.

The hubs and caster blocks are also in response to providing something that is not available anywhere else. The rear hubs are available in 0 and 1 degree toe angles. The front caster blocks are available in 3, 6 and 8 degree angles. We also have plans for 4 and 5 degree blocks if there is a demand. One of the great features is that the caster blocks are hard anodized. This gives them a very tough wear resistant pin bore that will make them last much longer than what is now available.

Please be aware that these are completely new designs. They are similar to TM parts only in the areas that require them to fit the existing car. There are also two other factors that make these special to us. First is that they are made in the USA and second the price is aimed at being less than what is available now.

The big question you are all asking is WHEN????? The answer is now...sort of. There have been many delays in these parts that are just beyond our control. Three hours from now I should be doing the final check on the parts at the machine shop and releasing them to the platers. We will get them by Tuesday and ship as soon as they arrive. They will be on the web site by Monday but the photos will be of unplated parts until Wednesday. The titanium parts are not plated.

To set the record straight Dave did not use the prototype parts at the Nationals. I did bring them along to show him and for him to take home for more testing. I did use the 0 degree rear hubs for my rubber car to cope with the tires they speced for the race.

Wolf Hobbies 04-03-2009 10:59 AM

Wolf Hobbies is very pleased to announce that Marcos Jennings has joined our "family" of team drivers. Most of you already know him as a regular contributor on this forum. but for those of you that do not know him he is a truly excellent driver, setup person and without a doubt one of the nicest people in R/C. He works very hard at developing his car but always finds the time to assist anyone that needs help. We are pleased that he has decided to join us and to be our "point man" in the Southeast. Welcome aboard Marcos!!

Marcos.J 04-03-2009 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by Wolf Hobbies (Post 5636152)
Wolf Hobbies is very pleased to announce that Marcos Jennings has joined our "family" of team drivers. Most of you already know him as a regular contributor on this forum. but for those of you that do not know him he is a truly excellent driver, setup person and without a doubt one of the nicest people in R/C. He works very hard at developing his car but always finds the time to assist anyone that needs help. We are pleased that he has decided to join us and to be our "point man" in the Southeast. Welcome aboard Marcos!!

Thanks for the kind words Wolf:nod: I'll be posting some new set ups by sunday or monday for outdoor rubber asphalt.

Stangas 04-04-2009 12:23 AM

Lipo's in the E4
 
Hey guys...

a mate just bought one and it the one where the batteries are loaded in via the bottom.

Our question is.... how and/or what type of lipo can be fitted in. We dont want to get the dremel out just yet.

I have an intellect hard case and it is just physically too big

Any suggestions appreciated

Stangas

Slidewayz 04-04-2009 01:40 AM


Originally Posted by Stangas (Post 5638874)
Hey guys...

Our question is.... how and/or what type of lipo can be fitted in. We dont want to get the dremel out just yet.

Stangas

Shim the deck 3mm as per the instructions and break out the dremel on the front pulley block protrustion, trim up the top deck between the middle rear screws for the battery leads to exit (I cut out the middle of the top deck plate right back to where the factory hole/s were), and you can neatly fit in a Thunderpower 40C 5000mAh hard case Lipo. You won't go back to anything else once you put in the 15 minutes of effort to fit this fantastic Lipo pack. In the unlikely event that you stuff up the modifications, spares are readily available. I can post photos of my mods if you'd like.

Cheers,
Simon


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