CRC 1/10 Pan Car
#2747
i am installing 1/12 king pin for my gen x LE and have some problems.
i try to use brian wynn's setup.
it said .404 1/12 king pin length
i find only few threads of the kingpin goes in the knuckle if i leave .404" (from bottom of kunckle to e clip slot)
please help
i try to use brian wynn's setup.
it said .404 1/12 king pin length
i find only few threads of the kingpin goes in the knuckle if i leave .404" (from bottom of kunckle to e clip slot)
please help
#2748
also does the rebound of the center shock matters?
#2749
Tech Apprentice
iTrader: (1)
Chassis
My LE chassis will be here tomorrow. Our track is a medium grip track...as I said in earlier post, looking for good steering coming off the corners. Which set of holes for chassis length should I mount the A arms that would be best for steering....short, middle or long???
#2750
This should get the king pin in another turn if you are measuring to the top of the slot.
Bill
#2751
#2752
thanks bill. you are always helpful.
are you one of the crc team driver?
are you one of the crc team driver?
#2753
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
My LE chassis will be here tomorrow. Our track is a medium grip track...as I said in earlier post, looking for good steering coming off the corners. Which set of holes for chassis length should I mount the A arms that would be best for steering....short, middle or long???
#2755
Tech Master
iTrader: (1)
Basically the spring will have just a little preload on it. I have been running .407 on the new steering blocks witht he 1/8' axles. The whole point of the number and measuring it is to make sure that they are even side to side. What I see alot when people bring their car to me at a race saying that the car hooks one way, is one kingpin is long. Assuming that the camber is fairly even side to side, the next thing I check is the kingpin length. 9 out of 10 times they will be two different lengths.
And please, please, please after you set your camber, look at it. I can not tell you how many people have problems setting camber. They pull out their over priced Hudy setup stations, strap on all those crazy attachments, set their camber, and then they are not the same. One tire will have like 17 degrees of camber and the other will be right. After you are done "setting" your camber, pick up the car, hold it in front of your face, open your eyes. look at it, and decide "do both of my tires look like they have the same amount of camber?" If you use one of those "setup" station thingees, you will be surprised how often it comes out wrong.
Sorry for the rant, but I want everyone to do better. And wasting over $100 on something that can screw the car up more than help it irritates me. We all carry alot of tools in our tool boxes, but usually your eyes are the best ones.
dumper
Brian Wynn
Team CRC
#2756
Just do like dumper, Use the force!
#2759
Measure from where kingpin enters the steering block to the bottom of the e clip groove. You should be able to run as long as .420ish and still secure the kingpin.
Basically the spring will have just a little preload on it. I have been running .407 on the new steering blocks witht he 1/8' axles. The whole point of the number and measuring it is to make sure that they are even side to side. What I see alot when people bring their car to me at a race saying that the car hooks one way, is one kingpin is long. Assuming that the camber is fairly even side to side, the next thing I check is the kingpin length. 9 out of 10 times they will be two different lengths.
And please, please, please after you set your camber, look at it. I can not tell you how many people have problems setting camber. They pull out their over priced Hudy setup stations, strap on all those crazy attachments, set their camber, and then they are not the same. One tire will have like 17 degrees of camber and the other will be right. After you are done "setting" your camber, pick up the car, hold it in front of your face, open your eyes. look at it, and decide "do both of my tires look like they have the same amount of camber?" If you use one of those "setup" station thingees, you will be surprised how often it comes out wrong.
Sorry for the rant, but I want everyone to do better. And wasting over $100 on something that can screw the car up more than help it irritates me. We all carry alot of tools in our tool boxes, but usually your eyes are the best ones.
dumper
Brian Wynn
Team CRC
Basically the spring will have just a little preload on it. I have been running .407 on the new steering blocks witht he 1/8' axles. The whole point of the number and measuring it is to make sure that they are even side to side. What I see alot when people bring their car to me at a race saying that the car hooks one way, is one kingpin is long. Assuming that the camber is fairly even side to side, the next thing I check is the kingpin length. 9 out of 10 times they will be two different lengths.
And please, please, please after you set your camber, look at it. I can not tell you how many people have problems setting camber. They pull out their over priced Hudy setup stations, strap on all those crazy attachments, set their camber, and then they are not the same. One tire will have like 17 degrees of camber and the other will be right. After you are done "setting" your camber, pick up the car, hold it in front of your face, open your eyes. look at it, and decide "do both of my tires look like they have the same amount of camber?" If you use one of those "setup" station thingees, you will be surprised how often it comes out wrong.
Sorry for the rant, but I want everyone to do better. And wasting over $100 on something that can screw the car up more than help it irritates me. We all carry alot of tools in our tool boxes, but usually your eyes are the best ones.
dumper
Brian Wynn
Team CRC
Ken
#2760
Tech Elite
Join Date: Dec 2005
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yes, to a point..... depending on your glue man. someone like dumper, who has the best glue man in the business has less issues with camber gauges than guys who put layer upon layer of glue on the sidewalls, then glue the chunks back in. i too fell prey to the setup station voodoo, and found myself getting yelled at more often than not.
the force is very powerful, and should be taken very seriously.
the force is very powerful, and should be taken very seriously.