U.S. Vintage Trans-Am Racing
#3766
Tech Champion
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I ran a 17.5 4 cell for about a month before I wasn't having fun any more. I understand completely. If your race director wants to separate them out, that's great. Then, let the guys that want to buy into that spec when their motors and batteries die out. I can understand wanting to get the final penny out of that hobby dollar when that dollar doesn't get very far. As long as they can still smile when the race is over, there is nothing wrong with it. After I switched to 21.5, my smile is back. I don't have to win, but I like to think I can at least race with the other big kids.
#3767
Hi all,
Yesterday I got out with a buddy and we got a great practice session in at Mikes in Dallas.
I've been running a Losi chassis for about 2.5 years in TC carpet rubber and foam tire. Some interesting tips for dialing in a good USVTA setup:
* I started with Mike Haynes setup posted earlier in this thread (it has harder springs in rear, softer in front so the car can turn well).
* Due to light traction, HPI spec tires, and stiffness of springs, the car was swapping ends going into corners (carpet, light traction).
* I went with real soft springs 10lb front / 15lb rear, and this helped a lot, but was still kicking the tail out quite a bit early in the run and later in a run it was pushing quite a bit.
* I noticed even though i was running really soft springs the car wasn't rolling much (low grip from spec tire). I increased the ride height to about 6.25mm.. I'm really happy with this!!! Feels very neutral through corners and "carves" the corners very nicely.
For those true USVTA Die-hards, this setup also looks very scale, due to the added roll in the corners.
Cheers,
Markf3x
Yesterday I got out with a buddy and we got a great practice session in at Mikes in Dallas.
I've been running a Losi chassis for about 2.5 years in TC carpet rubber and foam tire. Some interesting tips for dialing in a good USVTA setup:
* I started with Mike Haynes setup posted earlier in this thread (it has harder springs in rear, softer in front so the car can turn well).
* Due to light traction, HPI spec tires, and stiffness of springs, the car was swapping ends going into corners (carpet, light traction).
* I went with real soft springs 10lb front / 15lb rear, and this helped a lot, but was still kicking the tail out quite a bit early in the run and later in a run it was pushing quite a bit.
* I noticed even though i was running really soft springs the car wasn't rolling much (low grip from spec tire). I increased the ride height to about 6.25mm.. I'm really happy with this!!! Feels very neutral through corners and "carves" the corners very nicely.
For those true USVTA Die-hards, this setup also looks very scale, due to the added roll in the corners.
Cheers,
Markf3x
#3769
Tech Regular
iTrader: (1)
I'm very interested to run this class.
I have a 17.5/lipo setup in my JRX-S right now and was initially excited thinking that my car would qualify. After reading this more carefully it looks like I would have to either replace my battery or my motor to qualify.
Maybe I will check with my local race director to see how they will interpret the rules. Otherwise I'll just run some X-Patterns and race RCGT instead as replacing either the motor or battery isn't worth it.
I have a 17.5/lipo setup in my JRX-S right now and was initially excited thinking that my car would qualify. After reading this more carefully it looks like I would have to either replace my battery or my motor to qualify.
Maybe I will check with my local race director to see how they will interpret the rules. Otherwise I'll just run some X-Patterns and race RCGT instead as replacing either the motor or battery isn't worth it.
#3770
Tech Apprentice
As I've said in previous posts, the 21.5 lipo is the most competitive and after 2 months it is the cheapest. I suggest a time frame, perhaps the beginning of the next fall season that the only legal motor/ battery is 21.5 lipo. Racers will have 9 months to do odd jobs, mow some lawns, to get the $250 together to join the crowd and stop their complaining about not being fast enough. I put it to the floor for a vote. BC
#3771
Tech Master
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As I've said in previous posts, the 21.5 lipo is the most competitive and after 2 months it is the cheapest. I suggest a time frame, perhaps the beginning of the next fall season that the only legal motor/ battery is 21.5 lipo. Racers will have 9 months to do odd jobs, mow some lawns, to get the $250 together to join the crowd and stop their complaining about not being fast enough. I put it to the floor for a vote. BC
#3772
I'm very interested to run this class.
I have a 17.5/lipo setup in my JRX-S right now and was initially excited thinking that my car would qualify. After reading this more carefully it looks like I would have to either replace my battery or my motor to qualify.
Maybe I will check with my local race director to see how they will interpret the rules. Otherwise I'll just run some X-Patterns and race RCGT instead as replacing either the motor or battery isn't worth it.
I have a 17.5/lipo setup in my JRX-S right now and was initially excited thinking that my car would qualify. After reading this more carefully it looks like I would have to either replace my battery or my motor to qualify.
Maybe I will check with my local race director to see how they will interpret the rules. Otherwise I'll just run some X-Patterns and race RCGT instead as replacing either the motor or battery isn't worth it.
We're just getting the class together.. There were 2 of us showing off our VTA cars and letting people see what they look like, speed, handling, and FUN!!!. We have 6-8 people getting there cars together and others that are interested.. I expect a small class next week of 4-5 cars and probably about 8 cars in a few weeks when folks can ger bodies painted, etc.
Cheers,
Mark
#3773
Tech Elite
iTrader: (37)
@ our track in jonesborro we have 4 of us friends that are starting to run vta my 2 best friends and my son so the rules are relaxed since we are all friends and no outsiders are running YET. be we have 2 21.5 cars and my self and my other friend (newbe to racin) are running 17.5 lipo with a high fdr rule
(5.4+) and it works well on a small track (out side premiter is 35x50)
(5.4+) and it works well on a small track (out side premiter is 35x50)
#3774
Tech Regular
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@ our track in jonesborro we have 4 of us friends that are starting to run vta my 2 best friends and my son so the rules are relaxed since we are all friends and no outsiders are running YET. be we have 2 21.5 cars and my self and my other friend (newbe to racin) are running 17.5 lipo with a high fdr rule
(5.4+) and it works well on a small track (out side premiter is 35x50)
(5.4+) and it works well on a small track (out side premiter is 35x50)
I do think it would be kind of neat, however, to have a separate "sportsman" VTA class at the club level for ONLY 27T 4-cell.
Last edited by TeamGoodwrench; 12-28-2008 at 06:48 PM. Reason: added more
#3775
Tech Champion
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Just to let you guys know, the 27t and 17.5 4 cell options were put in the ROAR rules to allow club racers to have that option in the rules. ROAR was looking at 21.5/lipo only for all levels of racing, but the other setups were put in there in case a ROAR club wanted to include that in their class. It WILL be 21.5 lipo for regional races and above.
#3777
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
And you got all 4 makes in one shot! beautiful!
Also, for you guys on the 50*35 track:
You will be nowhere near a 4.2 FDR with the 21.5. I wouldn't be surprised if your at 4.8, at the lowest! We've had guys here in Indy win with 4 cell 27T and our track is 35' * 65'. A quick turning car and clean driving will be the key for a track your size, not power.
Also, for you guys on the 50*35 track:
You will be nowhere near a 4.2 FDR with the 21.5. I wouldn't be surprised if your at 4.8, at the lowest! We've had guys here in Indy win with 4 cell 27T and our track is 35' * 65'. A quick turning car and clean driving will be the key for a track your size, not power.
#3778
Tech Elite
iTrader: (37)
And you got all 4 makes in one shot! beautiful!
Also, for you guys on the 50*35 track:
You will be nowhere near a 4.2 FDR with the 21.5. I wouldn't be surprised if your at 4.8, at the lowest! We've had guys here in Indy win with 4 cell 27T and our track is 35' * 65'. A quick turning car and clean driving will be the key for a track your size, not power.
Also, for you guys on the 50*35 track:
You will be nowhere near a 4.2 FDR with the 21.5. I wouldn't be surprised if your at 4.8, at the lowest! We've had guys here in Indy win with 4 cell 27T and our track is 35' * 65'. A quick turning car and clean driving will be the key for a track your size, not power.
our 2 21.5 cars were geared different 4.2003 for the '04' and 4.67 in a fk05
and it was very noticeabe the 4.2 pulled harder and still had the same top speed both motors were bought @ the same time and this was their 1st run
#3780
I ran my VTA for the first time this past Saturday....Holy $&*^, what a blast to drive.
I had a 21.5 with the Tekin RS Pro and the new Thunder Power battery and it was a little too much. I'll probably slow it down a little this week to keep with the intent of the class. Our track is newly converted from a dirt oval to carpet and everyone is just getting use to the new surface.
A quick question regarding rules. My TC3 has the optional 200mm rear arms, are they legal? I'm swapping them out for the standard ones, but still need to know if these are an option down the road.
Thanks.
I had a 21.5 with the Tekin RS Pro and the new Thunder Power battery and it was a little too much. I'll probably slow it down a little this week to keep with the intent of the class. Our track is newly converted from a dirt oval to carpet and everyone is just getting use to the new surface.
A quick question regarding rules. My TC3 has the optional 200mm rear arms, are they legal? I'm swapping them out for the standard ones, but still need to know if these are an option down the road.
Thanks.