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Old 11-13-2010, 11:58 PM
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Thanks sir found the setup through the search button
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Old 11-14-2010, 06:35 AM
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Does anyone know the size of the diff. bearings for the outdrives?
The bearings seems pretty close to most cars outdrives.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by M3dreamin2008 View Post
Thanks Gee. I will be running at the C next weekend. Maybe i could use this but slightly stiffer?
If your running at the C, I would start with this one. What you need to do at the C to make a car work is very different than anywhere else, you cant be afraid to try funky things, like running more camber F than R, dropping a lot of rear toe, etc. This worked pretty good, but has a bit of push to it. I would also want to try stiffer springs, like a 19lb aftermarket front, and white rear.
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Old 11-14-2010, 04:32 PM
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hi.

will the 416x lipo conversion chassis fit the 416we?

thanks.
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Old 11-14-2010, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by badboy View Post
hi.

will the 416x lipo conversion chassis fit the 416we?

thanks.
yes but the new top deck does not work on the WE.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by artwork View Post
yes but the new top deck does not work on the WE.
artwork : thanks.
but will the WE topdeck work on the lipo chassis?
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by badboy View Post
artwork : thanks.
but will the WE topdeck work on the lipo chassis?
Yes, a direct fit.
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Old 11-15-2010, 06:56 AM
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does any body run 44mm drive shafts in the rear of their 416x? does it make any difference over the standard 42mm? i have heard a longer drive shaft can give abit more traction?
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Originally Posted by Smartypants View Post
does any body run 44mm drive shafts in the rear of their 416x? does it make any difference over the standard 42mm? i have heard a longer drive shaft can give abit more traction?
Most of us run 46mm in the front and 44mm in the rear. For the most part I am more concerned about how the end of the shaft fits in the outdrive. In the front the 46mm helps to reduce spool cup breakage by sitting further into the cup. I am not sure I have ever really felt any difference in traction. This car has alot of traction naturally, so I am not sure you would really need anymore. The key is to understand what the setup needs for your driving style. I am not a big fan of running team setups, but they can provide the correct place to start for any driver.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:23 AM
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I did a search on this thread looking for information regarding springs (over 20 pages), but I still need help (with springs ).

Questions:

1.) other than Tamiya, which manufacturers springs are a direct fit to my 416x shocks?

2.)I see suggestions referencing 19.5 spring stiffness, but I don't know which springs fit and have that stiffness.

3.)Is spring length important?

Tamiya has Red, Yellow, Blue, and White springs and they are available in "short" and a standard length??? Tamiya has a white spring set with red, yellow, and blue dot indicators. Tamiya has a black set with red, yellow, and blue dot indicators. Tamiya has a milky blue set with red, yellow and blue dot indicators. Are these all basically the same just in different colors?

Is there any advantage to using a short spring over a long spring?

Maybe we just need a tool for measuring spring stiffness.
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Geppetto View Post
I did a search on this thread looking for information regarding springs (over 20 pages), but I still need help (with springs ).

Questions:

1.) other than Tamiya, which manufacturers springs are a direct fit to my 416x shocks?

2.)I see suggestions referencing 19.5 spring stiffness, but I don't know which springs fit and have that stiffness.

3.)Is spring length important?

Tamiya has Red, Yellow, Blue, and White springs and they are available in "short" and a standard length??? Tamiya has a white spring set with red, yellow, and blue dot indicators. Tamiya has a black set with red, yellow, and blue dot indicators. Tamiya has a milky blue set with red, yellow and blue dot indicators. Are these all basically the same just in different colors?

Is there any advantage to using a short spring over a long spring?

Maybe we just need a tool for measuring spring stiffness.
AE springs should be a direct fit (I always ran tamiya shocks on my TC5 using AE springs w/o issue). Xray springs work as well, but you need the Xray retainer.

An AE gold spring is 19lb. And yes, all those different Tamiya sets are the same rate, just different looks.
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CraigM have if you can put the picture of the problem that gave you the smokem
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Originally Posted by geeunit1014 View Post
AE springs should be a direct fit (I always ran tamiya shocks on my TC5 using AE springs w/o issue). Xray springs work as well, but you need the Xray retainer.

An AE gold spring is 19lb. And yes, all those different Tamiya sets are the same rate, just different looks.
Thanks Mike. I'll take a look at the AE site. Hopefully, they provide published specifications for their springs.

Maybe someone else can address the importance of spring length???
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Geppetto View Post
Thanks Mike. I'll take a look at the AE site. Hopefully, they provide published specifications for their springs.

Maybe someone else can address the importance of spring length???
If you have 2 springs rated the same but different lengths they should function the same, as long as the short spring does not compress so much that you run into coil bind issues. (The spring is so compressed that the coils touch and no longer allow for any compression.) Hope thats the answer you where looking for.
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Old 11-15-2010, 12:32 PM
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i know this is not the for sale form, just figured i let you tamiya guys know first. i have a Brand New in Package Blue Tamiya Pit towl, that i have no need for, if you intrested please send me a PM
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