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turbodog 04-18-2007 02:16 PM


Originally Posted by McSmooth
We must break you.

LOL I am listening to Drowning Pool Break You right now!

bxpitbull 04-18-2007 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by McSmooth
We must break you.

The one on the left looks like a caviar salesman :lol: kid in the middle well.......but that one on the right.....We will BREAK you! Absolut robotics. Man, I am gonna get so warned. :lol:

customride 04-18-2007 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Zaner24
In Soviet Russia, you don't take picture of car, car take picture of you.


HAHAH - family guy = gold

RussB 04-18-2007 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by customride
HAHAH - family guy = gold

lol. that joke is much much older than family guy.

adamge 04-18-2007 04:32 PM

Russ, seriously? I was unaware of it before the Family Guy ep.

syndr0me 04-18-2007 04:42 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_Soviet_Russia

customride 04-18-2007 05:12 PM

good read, thanks!

RandyB 04-18-2007 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by dr_hfuhuhurr
What about the zombie rumors?

god you gotta love rc tech. Funny how fast the topic can change. Seriously I was just in tears reading this thread. But I think they are all on a bender either that or the potato water (vodka) cart ran out

RussB 04-18-2007 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by syndr0me

thanks for the link. i couldn't quite remember the spelling of yakov's name. wouldn't want to spell that wrong here... :lol:

BigDogRacing 04-19-2007 12:14 AM

I tried to clean it up in PS. I may have gone overboard...lol

BigDogRacing 04-19-2007 12:18 AM

I know one thing for sure- you can see that the motor is turning something in that tube which transitions the rotation from perpendicular to parallel to drive the spur gear. And I may be wrong, but is he using a blade type spring instead of a coil spring?

It's definately shaft drive...

syndr0me 04-19-2007 12:33 AM

Where's the servo? Where's the other half the cell closest to the rear of the car? What happens to that rubber band holding the battery in when you hit something?

jo90 04-19-2007 12:52 AM

On second looks it is similar to the Predator in the the suspension looks more inboard than out. Would be good to see some clear close up photo's though, but be patient, as with any proto I bet photo's will be almost banned before the car is really ready to come out the covers.

Good luck with it I say, and as said before it is good to see a new 'kid' on the block as such !

ttso 04-19-2007 12:52 AM

Servo is on his hand/table.

I really wonder if it require different pinon/spur gear, as I dont think you can do 90deg cross with existed pinon/spur, no way.

So the real problem is: is motor mount able to take impact, and is gear easy to wear, one of biggest problem for shaft car.

Anyway, it's interesting design. If it works, I will give it a try (and replace suspension to something else for easier parts supply.. ha)

Faiz 04-19-2007 02:02 AM

spot on those purple A-shaped twin upper link,

almost look alike with old TRF-414 or TA-04R front suspension,
it could be their way to increase suspension rigidity such as front upper arm of V1RRR or other current nitro car.

Turbokisa 04-19-2007 06:43 AM

Hi all! ;)

I saw this car at the 5-th round of Russian Indoor Cup 2007 which was held in St. Petersburg.
It's excellent design. It's a lot of innovation. Unique shocks.
Extremely low unsprung mass, great side by side balance and lowest CG in the world (i think so).
It uses a traditional spur and pinion, so no problems with this.

At this race car drived by Vitaly Karpov.
By the way several leading Russian drivers tried this model and be happy.
On the track the car is looking a bit unusual: roll are very low and this leads to very high corner speed.
Awesome! :eek:

I can't post detailed pics because it's still TOP SECRET. :cool:
Some information on Russian forum (translated): LINK
Pics comming soon.

It will be bomb... :sneaky:

Turbokisa 04-19-2007 06:59 AM

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Ok, some pics. Sorry for bad quality :(

bxpitbull 04-19-2007 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Turbokisa
Hi all! ;)

I saw this car at the 5-th round of Russian Indoor Cup 2007 which was held in St. Petersburg.
It's excellent design. It's a lot of innovation. Unique shocks.
Extremely low unsprung mass, great side by side balance and lowest CG in the world (i think so).
It uses a traditional spur and pinion, so no problems with this.

At this race car drived by Vitaly Karpov.
By the way several leading Russian drivers tried this model and be happy.
On the track the car is looking a bit unusual: roll are very low and this leads to very high corner speed.
Awesome! :eek:

I can't post detailed pics because it's still TOP SECRET. :cool:
Some information on Russian forum (translated): LINK
Pics comming soon.

It will be bomb... :sneaky:

Hey Ruskie, good luck with your new whip. It is going to be a hard sell convincing belt guys to go back to shaft. KGB is going to have to release more pics and specs. :lol:

number_one 04-19-2007 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by bxpitbull
Hey Ruskie, good luck with your new whip. It is going to be a hard sell convincing belt guys to go back to shaft. KGB is going to have to release more pics and specs. :lol:

The best smile is the last one ;) the pics and specs will be later, when the car released and the new brand released. The car will be a bit differ from you see (from what you may see))))))), but performance of the car is much better than my t2'007 for nowadays..

So thanks for all responses :-) will see you much later ;-)

ttso 04-19-2007 08:20 AM

Ok, I saw the high-res photo...
URL: http://rcauto.spb.ru/forum/index.php...ndpost&p=15277

How does pinon connected with spur???? Is there a 90deg mini gear box on right side of chassis, convert motor shaft -> 90deg turn -> standard pinon -> spur.

And damper, is damper on chassis, connected with lower arm? Doesnt look like a rod-damper design.

RedRC 04-19-2007 08:29 AM

Interesting project. Somebody posted a full picture of the car on the Russian Forum, which i have uploaded to the Red RC server which you can see here .

Yeti35 04-19-2007 08:33 AM

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Looking at that pic, it has a hell of a lot of lead in the front of it. I hope my resize still shows the details, for the original size was too big to upload. I also brightened it up some since the original was dark to the point of not being able to see detail much.

heretic 04-19-2007 08:33 AM

A previous prototype from Babitch Oleg (who else could that be ?)can be seen on www.overrc.com.

great swiss website.

go to : "archives "> "protoypes et réalisations personnelles", if you're not too dumb you should find it. There is also an interview of the designer (in english) .

the HRes picture still doesn't show us the 90 degrees thing....c'mon, we want some more !! :nod:

Marcos.J 04-19-2007 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Yeti35
Looking at that pic, it has a hell of a lot of lead in the front of it. I hope my resize still shows the details, for the original size was too big to upload. I also brightened it up some since the original was dark to the point of not being able to see detail much.

here
http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...ssianepcar.jpg

that is alot of lead in the front :nod:

Turbokisa 04-19-2007 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by Marcos.J
that is alot of lead in the front :nod:

I think because car's weight is under 1500g in 6 cell configuration (Oleg said).
Lead can be installed anywhere.

Francis M. 04-19-2007 09:30 AM

What does this car use for dampening?

RandyB 04-19-2007 09:40 AM

I think Josh cyrul made a car 5-6 years ago that had a similar front suspension. Looks like its based on 12th scale wizardry

Turbokisa 04-19-2007 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by Francis M.
What does this car use for dampening?

Special type shocks.

number_one 04-19-2007 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by Francis M.
What does this car use for dampening?

based on KGB nuclear damping system ))))))))))))) :sneaky: :sneaky: :cool: That is one of secrets, Matt ;-)

bxpitbull 04-19-2007 10:38 AM

i hit it on the head
 
Hit on the head, shaft with a BD mounted style motor layout. Lot of extra moving parts in the gearing department.

number_one 04-19-2007 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by bxpitbull
Hit on the head, shaft with a BD mounted style motor. Lot of extra moving parts in the gearing department.

It is better to calculate efficiency of belt and gears. After everything will be clear.

bxpitbull 04-19-2007 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by number_one
It is better to calculate efficiency of belt and gears. After everything will be clear.

Play on playa.

Marcos.J 04-19-2007 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by number_one
It is better to calculate efficiency of belt and gears. After everything will be clear.

ashaft car is not necessarily more efficient than a belt car

burbs 04-19-2007 11:23 AM

The upper arm setup is similar to what trinity used on there old pan cars.. I wonder if it uses pan car springs with the blade sway bar setup..

smojoe 04-19-2007 11:27 AM

"Solid" lower arms? Who cares; check out that steering system! Talk about a heavily modified concept.

syndr0me 04-19-2007 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by heretic
A previous prototype from Babitch Oleg (who else could that be ?)can be seen on www.overrc.com.

great swiss website.

go to : "archives "> "protoypes et réalisations personnelles", if you're not too dumb you should find it. There is also an interview of the designer (in english) .

the HRes picture still doesn't show us the 90 degrees thing....c'mon, we want some more !! :nod:

I tried not to be too dumb. Are you talking about this?

Edit: Never mind, I guess I lose. Here's the list:

http://www.overrc.com/news/menunews2.htm

adamge 04-19-2007 11:50 AM

I dub this car 'Bowflex TC'!

bxpitbull 04-19-2007 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by adamge
I dub this car 'Bowflex TC'!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You have officially been named the funniest dude of this thread!

Turbokisa 04-19-2007 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by bxpitbull
Lot of extra moving parts in the gearing department.

This prototype won Russian Cup 2007 in stock class.
I think I need not remind you that in stock minimal loss of power in drivetrain is very important.
Motors for 1-st, 2-nd and 3-rd car were the same (Fantom Team Stock FAN30426).

Marcos.J 04-19-2007 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by Turbokisa
This prototype won Russian Cup 2007 in stock class.
I think I need not remind you that in stock minimal loss of power in drivetrain is very important.
Motors for 1-st, 2-nd and 3-rd car were the same (Fantom Team Stock FAN30426).

didnt know that prototypes were allowed in stock class? i guess stock is different over there


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