MTC3
#176
The rear arms hang off that carbon bumper and are not attached to the chassis. Gives that point easy changes for squat? I find that to be the most unique feature.
I actually don't like the quick change upper arm mounts. But hey, guys that have run the MTC2 are used to the shims. Also the rear, although innovative looking, looks overly engineered.
I'm disappointed that there is no balsa in this kit or special hardware. I feel slighted....LOL
I actually don't like the quick change upper arm mounts. But hey, guys that have run the MTC2 are used to the shims. Also the rear, although innovative looking, looks overly engineered.
I'm disappointed that there is no balsa in this kit or special hardware. I feel slighted....LOL
#177
The rear arms hang off that carbon bumper and are not attached to the chassis. Gives that point easy changes for squat? I find that to be the most unique feature.
I actually don't like the quick change upper arm mounts. But hey, guys that have run the MTC2 are used to the shims. Also the rear, although innovative looking, looks overly engineered.
I'm disappointed that there is no balsa in this kit or special hardware. I feel slighted....LOL
I actually don't like the quick change upper arm mounts. But hey, guys that have run the MTC2 are used to the shims. Also the rear, although innovative looking, looks overly engineered.
I'm disappointed that there is no balsa in this kit or special hardware. I feel slighted....LOL
#178
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it's more of question on whether you like making quick upper arm changes or if you prefer to play around with shims and having the correct length studs. If you prefer shims, It looks like you can just set the adjustor at certain for working range and use shims like you use to.
#179
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Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 94
From: Earth
The car looks pretty neat and is probably my next touring car.
I'm also not really convinced yet on the "shimless" adjustments at the upper bulkheads.
It seems to need a lot of fiddling, trying to line up the markings (at times 0,25mm in positon changes makes a noticable difference on track).
And in my opinion, whats wrong with shims, for sure not the easiest to work with but compared to trying to line up the small aluminium parts? Idk.
But as it was already mentioned it looks like shims are still an option while fixing the mount at the lowest or highest position.
So only time will tell, if this feature is usable or only a nice to have.
On the the topic of height adjustments. The option to run smaller spur gears with adjusting the height of the layshaft to run smaller spurgears sounds like a marketing gimmick to me. I haven't done the calculations for the reduction of moment of inertia. But in comparison to Spool, Diff, Driveshafts, hexes and belts the weight reduction of the plastic spur gear and aluminium pinion seems insignificant.
Hopefully there is a screw & clamping mechanism to adjust the shock angle (i'm obviously just guessing, because in the upper shock eyelet is as screw for a flat head screwdriver
) And without it trying to hold the shock at the wanted position while fixing it, sounds horrible in that small not very accessible spot.
I hope the rear bulkheads won't bend too easily in a "crash" or unwanted touch of a pipe or racing incdent with other cars.
Because a lot of forces in the rear suspension will transfer to the bulkhead and won't be absorbed by the chassis.
I think the RC-Maker SP1 has a similar issue, because the suspension linkage is fixed to the bulkhead and this bends the bulkhead pretty easy.
At least thats what i heard at the track and read here on RC-Tech.
Before someone comments "Then don't crash". I'm pretty sure everyone is glad if the part doesn't bend after a crash and buy replacement parts for 30$ each Bulkhead.
Otherwise the car looks awesome and it seems that the performance is already there.
I'm also not really convinced yet on the "shimless" adjustments at the upper bulkheads.
It seems to need a lot of fiddling, trying to line up the markings (at times 0,25mm in positon changes makes a noticable difference on track).
And in my opinion, whats wrong with shims, for sure not the easiest to work with but compared to trying to line up the small aluminium parts? Idk.
But as it was already mentioned it looks like shims are still an option while fixing the mount at the lowest or highest position.
So only time will tell, if this feature is usable or only a nice to have.
On the the topic of height adjustments. The option to run smaller spur gears with adjusting the height of the layshaft to run smaller spurgears sounds like a marketing gimmick to me. I haven't done the calculations for the reduction of moment of inertia. But in comparison to Spool, Diff, Driveshafts, hexes and belts the weight reduction of the plastic spur gear and aluminium pinion seems insignificant.
Hopefully there is a screw & clamping mechanism to adjust the shock angle (i'm obviously just guessing, because in the upper shock eyelet is as screw for a flat head screwdriver
) And without it trying to hold the shock at the wanted position while fixing it, sounds horrible in that small not very accessible spot.I hope the rear bulkheads won't bend too easily in a "crash" or unwanted touch of a pipe or racing incdent with other cars.
Because a lot of forces in the rear suspension will transfer to the bulkhead and won't be absorbed by the chassis.
I think the RC-Maker SP1 has a similar issue, because the suspension linkage is fixed to the bulkhead and this bends the bulkhead pretty easy.
At least thats what i heard at the track and read here on RC-Tech.
Before someone comments "Then don't crash". I'm pretty sure everyone is glad if the part doesn't bend after a crash and buy replacement parts for 30$ each Bulkhead.
Otherwise the car looks awesome and it seems that the performance is already there.
#180
So there are up travel stoppers? Previously drivers on were using orings on the shock shafts if they were getting chassis rub. I guess precisely adjusting that is of some use.
I didn’t say it before but the car looks good. It’s definitely lower and looks more tuneable in flex. Personally I wish the rear of the car was simpler but what do I know?
I didn’t say it before but the car looks good. It’s definitely lower and looks more tuneable in flex. Personally I wish the rear of the car was simpler but what do I know?



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(no offense). Topdecks are also quite long.