Yokomo BD9
#256
I don't understand either. You have guys now cutting chassis plates on titanium (heavier than aluminum) and now you guys have really light magnesium....
#257
Tech Elite
iTrader: (16)
I would guess they are playing with materials that have different E's (Young's modulus or modulus of elasticity). The lower the E, the more the material flexes under strain. So Aluminum is 10.2 and an easy way to make the chassis more flexible is to use Magnesium that has an E of 6.4. Conversely, an easy way to make the chassis stiffer is to make it from Titanium that has an E of 16.5.
#258
Tech Elite
I would guess they are playing with materials that have different E's (Young's modulus or modulus of elasticity). The lower the E, the more the material flexes under strain. So Aluminum is 10.2 and an easy way to make the chassis more flexible is to use Magnesium that has an E of 6.4. Conversely, an easy way to make the chassis stiffer is to make it from Titanium that has an E of 16.5.
#259
Yes, understood on elasticity, but this could be manipulated with larger or smaller cutouts too for flex, along with thickness.
#260
Tech Fanatic
Disadvantage - less strength.
#261
I too do not see why Mg would be used. Yes it is harmonically more stable, but without extensive testing on cutout and shape in relation to handling changes, it would seem to be a poor idea. Aluminum is already easy to tweak with a hard crash. I cant imagine how a magnesium chassis with the same shape and cutouts would hold up in even a light crash. I would be more interested in a 7k or up series aluminum chassis plate with flex focused more in the front mid area. I am currently already adding 110 grams to my 21.5 chassis.
#262
Tech Elite
iTrader: (16)
EDIT: I posted this before I saw Oleg's and MidwestRacer's comments that already stated the strength issues. Man, there are a lot of really smart people on this forum!!! That's why I love this forum.
#263
Magnesium is also flammable, should make all the lipo fires much more epic.
#264
Tech Elite
#265
Tech Elite
#266
Tech Master
iTrader: (10)
The reason for the finish is:
Do not couple iron, nickel, titanium, copper–bearing
alloys, or 2000 or 7000 series aluminum alloys with
magnesium alloys. Dissimilar metal fasteners (i.e.,
cadmium plated bolts) or inserts, bushings, and
sleeves should be insulated by additional finishes on
assembly
Do not couple iron, nickel, titanium, copper–bearing
alloys, or 2000 or 7000 series aluminum alloys with
magnesium alloys. Dissimilar metal fasteners (i.e.,
cadmium plated bolts) or inserts, bushings, and
sleeves should be insulated by additional finishes on
assembly
#267
Hi, how is the car on asphalt, out of the box ??
#268
Tech Adept
Quick opinion question for y'all. I haven't raced onroad in about 12 years. Im looking to get back into it but don't know which way to go regarding the aluminum chassis or carbon. The tracks near me are asphalt and also carpet. Which would you guys get?
#269
If you plan to run the asphalt tracks, purchase a carbon chassis kit. Even on carpet, the carbon chassis is very good especially if it is low to medium grip level carpet. The aluminum chassis has really only been better on high grip black carpet with a very good run in groove. The lower CG and less flex makes the car carry more corner speed. From my experience, the aluminum chassis' make the car harder to get set up on asphalt. The carbon chassis has a much larger window to find a fast and easy to drive setup.
#270
Tech Adept
If you plan to run the asphalt tracks, purchase a carbon chassis kit. Even on carpet, the carbon chassis is very good especially if it is low to medium grip level carpet. The aluminum chassis has really only been better on high grip black carpet with a very good run in groove. The lower CG and less flex makes the car carry more corner speed. From my experience, the aluminum chassis' make the car harder to get set up on asphalt. The carbon chassis has a much larger window to find a fast and easy to drive setup.