TLR 22 4.0
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#736
Tech Elite
iTrader: (166)
I couldn't get the diff to break in right, tried a second time by flipping rings, cleaning out grease. Same thing. It was smooth for a day both times. I didn't have the outdrive issue other's have had either. Some at my track also having diff issues and some not. Not sure what the deal is.
I hate buying extra parts for new kits, but bought an MIP superdiff for $28 and the car now drives fantastic. If I buy a second kit I would go the same route.
I hate buying extra parts for new kits, but bought an MIP superdiff for $28 and the car now drives fantastic. If I buy a second kit I would go the same route.
#739
#741
Tech Master
iTrader: (90)
Was going to pick up a kit today. Anyone have a good outdoor setup for a hard pack dirt track that has a loose layer on top? Also any option parts I should keep in mind. Sorry for the noob questions but skimmed through the previous messages and didnt see this being answered.
#742
Finally got to run my 4.0
I finally got to run my 4.0 last night on high-bite clay.
Quick first impressions after running Thayer's final stock nats setup:
PROS
1. TONS of steering
2. TONS of rear grip
3. Jumps/lands like a champ... best of any 2WD buggy I've driven
4. Very easy to drive and tracks extremely well
CONS
1. Popped a ball cup on a very mild brush with the pipe. 4 months with my B6D, I have never popped a ball cup. I knew this was going to be an issue during the build, though.
2. Diff definitely loosened up on me and even got a little crunchy. Tightened it back down, which helped with the crunchiness, but the car does not carry speed/traction through tight 180's as well as my B6D does. It does carry a medium/large sweeper like a beast, though - certainly better than my B6D. I'll admit that leaving the track with my diff screw intact felt like a net win
OTHER
My 4.0 was a little more forgiving than my B6D, whereas my B6D definitely feels "lighter" on its feet. There are sections of the track where I very much appreciated the forgiveness of the 4.0, and other sections where I cherished the B6D's nimbleness. I was a little more consistent with my B6D, but the jury is still out on that - I've been driving my B6D for 4 months and know its characteristics inside and out... I know when to push it and when to hold back. I know I don't need to hold back on the 4.0, I just need to learn how to push it.
I have the SR diff/bones assembled, but they're not in the car yet. I'm really hoping it will help the car mid/late corner exit like my B6D. I don't think I can get my B6D to jump/land quite like the 4.0 does, but if I can get the 4.0 to operate just a touch more closer to the edge than it does out of the box, I'll be thrilled.
My goal ultimately is to have two stock buggies, same model. I was hoping the decision was going to be easy, but clearly it won't be. Both are a blast to drive, but for different reasons. I will say that it took me 3 trips to the track to really get my B6D where I wanted it. First trip to the track, it was about 75% there. The 4.0 was 90% there on its first lap.
Tonight I head to a different track with a little less traction (last night's track was super high grip). Looking forward to comparing them again back to back under less than perfect conditions.
Quick first impressions after running Thayer's final stock nats setup:
PROS
1. TONS of steering
2. TONS of rear grip
3. Jumps/lands like a champ... best of any 2WD buggy I've driven
4. Very easy to drive and tracks extremely well
CONS
1. Popped a ball cup on a very mild brush with the pipe. 4 months with my B6D, I have never popped a ball cup. I knew this was going to be an issue during the build, though.
2. Diff definitely loosened up on me and even got a little crunchy. Tightened it back down, which helped with the crunchiness, but the car does not carry speed/traction through tight 180's as well as my B6D does. It does carry a medium/large sweeper like a beast, though - certainly better than my B6D. I'll admit that leaving the track with my diff screw intact felt like a net win
OTHER
My 4.0 was a little more forgiving than my B6D, whereas my B6D definitely feels "lighter" on its feet. There are sections of the track where I very much appreciated the forgiveness of the 4.0, and other sections where I cherished the B6D's nimbleness. I was a little more consistent with my B6D, but the jury is still out on that - I've been driving my B6D for 4 months and know its characteristics inside and out... I know when to push it and when to hold back. I know I don't need to hold back on the 4.0, I just need to learn how to push it.
I have the SR diff/bones assembled, but they're not in the car yet. I'm really hoping it will help the car mid/late corner exit like my B6D. I don't think I can get my B6D to jump/land quite like the 4.0 does, but if I can get the 4.0 to operate just a touch more closer to the edge than it does out of the box, I'll be thrilled.
My goal ultimately is to have two stock buggies, same model. I was hoping the decision was going to be easy, but clearly it won't be. Both are a blast to drive, but for different reasons. I will say that it took me 3 trips to the track to really get my B6D where I wanted it. First trip to the track, it was about 75% there. The 4.0 was 90% there on its first lap.
Tonight I head to a different track with a little less traction (last night's track was super high grip). Looking forward to comparing them again back to back under less than perfect conditions.
#744
#746
#747
#749
Great! Like I said, 4 months with my B6D and have never popped one. Second pack in on my 22 4.0, and I popped one. Frank has already acknowledged that there's an issue, so there's really not much use in pretending like there's not at least a batch of them out there with problems. This thread along with the SCT 3.0 thread is evidence enough, though.
#750
This is a helpful comparison for non owners on the fence looking to buy a losi. Thank you
Can anyone draw a comparison to the Kyosho RB6.6?
Thx
Can anyone draw a comparison to the Kyosho RB6.6?
Thx
I finally got to run my 4.0 last night on high-bite clay.
Quick first impressions after running Thayer's final stock nats setup:
PROS
1. TONS of steering
2. TONS of rear grip
3. Jumps/lands like a champ... best of any 2WD buggy I've driven
4. Very easy to drive and tracks extremely well
CONS
1. Popped a ball cup on a very mild brush with the pipe. 4 months with my B6D, I have never popped a ball cup. I knew this was going to be an issue during the build, though.
2. Diff definitely loosened up on me and even got a little crunchy. Tightened it back down, which helped with the crunchiness, but the car does not carry speed/traction through tight 180's as well as my B6D does. It does carry a medium/large sweeper like a beast, though - certainly better than my B6D. I'll admit that leaving the track with my diff screw intact felt like a net win
OTHER
My 4.0 was a little more forgiving than my B6D, whereas my B6D definitely feels "lighter" on its feet. There are sections of the track where I very much appreciated the forgiveness of the 4.0, and other sections where I cherished the B6D's nimbleness. I was a little more consistent with my B6D, but the jury is still out on that - I've been driving my B6D for 4 months and know its characteristics inside and out... I know when to push it and when to hold back. I know I don't need to hold back on the 4.0, I just need to learn how to push it.
I have the SR diff/bones assembled, but they're not in the car yet. I'm really hoping it will help the car mid/late corner exit like my B6D. I don't think I can get my B6D to jump/land quite like the 4.0 does, but if I can get the 4.0 to operate just a touch more closer to the edge than it does out of the box, I'll be thrilled.
My goal ultimately is to have two stock buggies, same model. I was hoping the decision was going to be easy, but clearly it won't be. Both are a blast to drive, but for different reasons. I will say that it took me 3 trips to the track to really get my B6D where I wanted it. First trip to the track, it was about 75% there. The 4.0 was 90% there on its first lap.
Tonight I head to a different track with a little less traction (last night's track was super high grip). Looking forward to comparing them again back to back under less than perfect conditions.
Quick first impressions after running Thayer's final stock nats setup:
PROS
1. TONS of steering
2. TONS of rear grip
3. Jumps/lands like a champ... best of any 2WD buggy I've driven
4. Very easy to drive and tracks extremely well
CONS
1. Popped a ball cup on a very mild brush with the pipe. 4 months with my B6D, I have never popped a ball cup. I knew this was going to be an issue during the build, though.
2. Diff definitely loosened up on me and even got a little crunchy. Tightened it back down, which helped with the crunchiness, but the car does not carry speed/traction through tight 180's as well as my B6D does. It does carry a medium/large sweeper like a beast, though - certainly better than my B6D. I'll admit that leaving the track with my diff screw intact felt like a net win
OTHER
My 4.0 was a little more forgiving than my B6D, whereas my B6D definitely feels "lighter" on its feet. There are sections of the track where I very much appreciated the forgiveness of the 4.0, and other sections where I cherished the B6D's nimbleness. I was a little more consistent with my B6D, but the jury is still out on that - I've been driving my B6D for 4 months and know its characteristics inside and out... I know when to push it and when to hold back. I know I don't need to hold back on the 4.0, I just need to learn how to push it.
I have the SR diff/bones assembled, but they're not in the car yet. I'm really hoping it will help the car mid/late corner exit like my B6D. I don't think I can get my B6D to jump/land quite like the 4.0 does, but if I can get the 4.0 to operate just a touch more closer to the edge than it does out of the box, I'll be thrilled.
My goal ultimately is to have two stock buggies, same model. I was hoping the decision was going to be easy, but clearly it won't be. Both are a blast to drive, but for different reasons. I will say that it took me 3 trips to the track to really get my B6D where I wanted it. First trip to the track, it was about 75% there. The 4.0 was 90% there on its first lap.
Tonight I head to a different track with a little less traction (last night's track was super high grip). Looking forward to comparing them again back to back under less than perfect conditions.