26LikesTLR 22 3.0 Race Kit Thread!
08-23-2016, 10:37 AM - Wikipost
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Cub86 posted the question: Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.
Franks response: Laydown Conversion will work great by itself. You run the aluminum +3mm hubs, the diff is +3.5mm, and you run the HRC front setup. Just follow a setup sheet from tlracing.com (Frank Root). Dirt Tranny has the diff at the same height as the standard tranny case, and works with the standard plastic hubs. Both are +/- 0mm from stock. When you run this, no need to run the HRC front mod either. I've found the stock laydown conversion parts to work great for most tracks. The dirt tranny is a great tuning option, but definitely not 'required'. K.King Something I made, pretty basic. Just to give people an idea. 
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06-11-2016, 03:14 PM
#3061
I've been running the 3.0 for a while now in stock. Only changes to the kit set up i've made was going to 27.5 wt Dynamite oil and 4 degrees toe, I adjust my camber to the track. My only aftermarket parts are a hot racing front camber block which feels almost as light as the plastic one, an exotek slipper eliminator and aluminum pucks. I've had people tell me that my buggy was the fastest stock buggy they ever seen. All i run is a Trackstar V2 17.5, Speed passion Revention R, Savox SC1257 servo and use RCking(smc) 4400mah packs. Overall very happy with my buggy on the many surface types i've ran on it so far, from med high bite clay all the way to med low grip very dusty tracks where you wouldn't think 3 gear would work.
06-11-2016, 07:53 PM
#3062
Tech Regular
Ok, I got the Exotek all installed and decided not to modify the front kick plate and add the +3 rear hubs to move up the roll center 3mm. Now, the question is how low, with just the Exotek leydown tranny, can you make your ride height?
I understand using the TLR laydown kit the +3mm rear hubs and the front kick plate mod is needed to move the roll center up so you can run a lower ride height. So, I'm thinking that I can go down a few mms using the Exotek, but not sure. Any thoughts from you jeti masters out there?
I understand using the TLR laydown kit the +3mm rear hubs and the front kick plate mod is needed to move the roll center up so you can run a lower ride height. So, I'm thinking that I can go down a few mms using the Exotek, but not sure. Any thoughts from you jeti masters out there?
06-12-2016, 04:12 AM
#3064
It remains to be seen to know if a convertible car is the way to go as well. The biggest thing I'm noticing is how the outdrive height is being adjusted on the 3.0 to be more dirt friendly to allow higher ride heights. The industry is really new to laydown, and you can never expect something to take off until after it's released. I think you will see laydown evolve even more as guys learn how to make it better, and THEN you will see things happen. Right now you have different tranny cases for different conditions.
Plus, what about running a standard car with a HRC front and rear block? I bet that would work very well also.
Plus, what about running a standard car with a HRC front and rear block? I bet that would work very well also.
06-12-2016, 08:12 PM
#3065
Frank, you can package the kit with the laydown chassis drilled for (and including) both transmissions and call it the TLR 22 3.1 
06-13-2016, 09:09 AM
#3066
I ordered the laydown dirt diff case. Does that setup use the alum rear hubs and HRC front mount or just regular standard 3.0 parts before putting on the lay down kit?
06-13-2016, 10:16 AM
#3067
I'm really liking mine. Mellows it out enough due to the higher ride height but you still get good corner speed and stability.
06-13-2016, 11:39 AM
#3069
Can this be installed on the stock chassis or does it have to be on the chassis from the laydown kit?
06-13-2016, 11:54 AM
#3071
That's for the Exotek - just wondering if you can do the same thing with the TLR dirt laydown case by drilling a couple holes in the stock chassis and using shims for the waterfall.
06-13-2016, 12:18 PM
#3072
06-13-2016, 12:40 PM
#3073
i was told to rn a standup 3.0 setup, using the laydown trans...meaning, no front hrc, and middle spindle height...etc...
06-14-2016, 03:25 AM
#3075
Tech Initiate
#confused
Hi. I'm struggling to understand the lay down situation. I run on high bite damp smooth clay and think the conversation would help on my surface but from what I'm reading I need to buy the lay down kit tlr338004. And the dirt gear case tlr332063. But do I really need both from what I've read the dirt case is 1-2mm higher anyway and u don't use the +3mm hubs or the front pivot hrc or Hrc mod. So is the dirt lay down kit tlr332063 is all that's needed to get me a lay down set up that's suited for clay With the components and car I already have. And if I only get the dirt case is there any problems that will need to be addressed IE.. bone plunge . I do know I'll need 1mm spacers on the waterfall to clear the battery. Thanks guys really trying to get my head around this.